GOP thread

[WG53]

Just now, Justafan said:

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[Justafan]

4 minutes ago, WG53 said:

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[Justafan]

2 hours ago, begooode said:

^^  when your interpretations of bias are wrong, but you have chosen the path of righteous indignation rather than admit your perspective is not free of bias as you imagine,  but rather a defensive reaction.

 

Dying on Jan6 committee hill as an example of a nefarious dem-driven investigations.  lofl.  You have no idea just how much you have implicitly normalized  Trump and his maga-crazed repubs.  In operations talk -- you are forcing 'bell-shaped curve thinking' into situations where the events are in fact skewed, not normally distributed.  Then when you encounter pushback to your forced perspective, you attack 'it MUST be a bell-shaped curve, shill!' rather than honestly assessing the data/events and recalibrating accordingly. ex: "Not a single shred of Democrat wrong doing in your eyes."  That's not at all what I said or even implied; but rather you pivoted, attacked me with a context-free strawman and ran from YOUR assertion.  c'mon man, this is wrongheaded at best. Do better or quit crying.

My assertion that the Democrats used the Jan 6th committee for political gain? That's the not free of bias perspective that's SOO over the top? Please. My righteous indignation? You proved your own bias and then decided to attack my character. You can learn from that or not, I don't care but you did a wonderful job of undermining your own argument and bolstering mine.

 

I didn't ask anyone to have bell shaped thinking or argue that facts are distributed evenly. I asked you to consider any facts at all that didn't 100% conform to the leftist narrative. Any. At all. 

 

Don't come on man me. I didn't come at you. You came at me so spare me the bs. 

[begooode]

53 minutes ago, Justafan said:

My assertion that the Democrats used the Jan 6th committee for political gain? That's the not free of bias perspective that's SOO over the top? Please. My righteous indignation? You proved your own bias and then decided to attack my character. You can learn from that or not, I don't care but you did a wonderful job of undermining your own argument and bolstering mine.

 

I didn't ask anyone to have bell shaped thinking or argue that facts are distributed evenly. I asked you to consider any facts at all that didn't 100% conform to the leftist narrative. Any. At all. 

 

Don't come on man me. I didn't come at you. You came at me so spare me the bs. 

 

Please respect my fact-free false equivalencies!!  I insist!!

 

Liz Cheney -- the most authoritative force on the J6 committee -- donated $10,000 to Trump's 2020 reelection fund, voted with his policies 95% of the time.  But she's really just another operative in the dem plan of specious investigations of the Jan 6 attempt to block the constitutionally enshrined certification of the 2020 election.  But I am biased., and must support your assertion, because Dems do stuff, too.

 

53 minutes ago, Justafan said:

I asked you to consider any facts at all that didn't 100% conform to the leftist narrative. Any. At all. 

 

No, you didn't. I'm fairly convinced from your pearl clutching you moved away from your original point. And wtf does this even mean?! This is just aggrievement talk.  Asking you to support your assertion becomes a fucking leftist narrative and hurt feelings?! FFS

Edited May 14, 2024 by begooode

[Justafan]

43 minutes ago, begooode said:

 

Please respect my fact-free false equivalencies!!  I insist!!

 

Liz Cheney -- the most authoritative force on the J6 committee -- donated $10,000 to Trump's 2020 reelection fund, voted with his policies 95% of the time.  But she's really just another operative in the dem plan of specious investigations of the Jan 6 attempt to block the constitutionally enshrined certification of the 2020 election.  But I am biased., and must support your assertion, because Dems do stuff, too.

Lol. It's always hilarious when someone makes assumptions, then makes accusations based on those assumptions, hurls insults, tells me I should do better, and still misses the point.

 

Yes, it's true that Cheney is a loud minority - certainly not the most authoritative force though, that's just made up - member of the J6 committee. One of two Republicans on that committee compared to the 6 Dems. It's incredible that the two Republicans chosen to be on the committee also happened to be people who had spoken out publicly against their party and especially Trump before the committee was confirmed.  The representatives that the Republicans requested were outright rejected. Now you can complain that they were biased and that is fine but you don't get to act like you set up a fair 'trial' when you do things like that. Yet, you're expecting me to believe that that is evidence that the J6 committee is not politically motivated? Get real. 

 

Also, I support the J6 committee and want it to be treated like an actual trial where people would be held accountable, but neither side is interested. The Republicans only want to protect Trump, and the Democrats only want to use it as a cudgel to damage Republicans as much as possible.

 

Much like the Hunter Biden case where Republicans ONLY care about damaging Biden and Democrats ONLY care about protecting Biden and limiting damage before the election. 

 

Also, I've repeatedly said that the Republicans are worse than Dems, so can we please stop with the equivalency BS because it's not true, and it is only said to try and distract from the actual points being made? Saying that the Dems also use investigations, legislative and executive processes, and the media to damage their opponents and gain political advantage is not the same as saying both parties are equal. I understand that many people are incapable of nuance, so I'll continue laying it out there. 

[begooode]

2 minutes ago, Justafan said:

Lol. It's always hilarious when someone makes assumptions, then makes accusations based on those assumptions, hurls insults, tells me I should do better, and still misses the point.

 

WHOOSH!!!

 

[begooode]

Seriously, one of the most awkward interactions I've had on TR.  "da Leftist Narrative!!" Fucking embarrassing.

[Justafan]

8 minutes ago, begooode said:

Seriously, one of the most awkward interactions I've had on TR.  "da Leftist Narrative!!" Fucking embarrassing.

 

11 minutes ago, begooode said:

 

WHOOSH!!!

 

Whoosh indeed. You're delusional. 

 

And back to the character attacks.  It's always easy to see when someone knows they are wrong because they start doing petty shit like this. This is exactly what I mean about it being impossible to have a reasonable conversation here. It's all gotcha, talking points, and cudgels. You didn't come here to discuss issues like an adult; you came here to lay the smackdown! 

 

I agree that this entire back-and-forth is embarrassing, and the longer it goes, the worse you look. I mean, you literally sent me a link of like 75 investigations the Dems ran and then pretend like the Dems don't use investigations for political gain. You used Liz fucking Cheney as an example of the Dems aren't politically motivated.

 

Thanks for the entertainment, the comedy here is pretty good. 

Edited May 14, 2024 by Justafan

[begooode]

Yeesh

[Little Earl]

23 minutes ago, Justafan said:

 

Whoosh indeed. You're delusional. 

 

And back to the character attacks.  It's always easy to see when someone knows they are wrong because they start doing petty shit like this. This is exactly what I mean about it being impossible to have a reasonable conversation here. It's all gotcha, talking points, and cudgels. You didn't come here to discuss issues like an adult; you came here to lay the smackdown! 

 

I agree that this entire back-and-forth is embarrassing, and the longer it goes, the worse you look. I mean, you literally sent me a link of like 75 investigations the Dems ran and then pretend like the Dems don't use investigations for political gain. You used Liz fucking Cheney as an example of the Dems aren't politically motivated.

 

Thanks for the entertainment, the comedy here is pretty good. 

 

Its also a known fact that they cherry picked the video footage they used.  And they outright ignored Pelosi's rejection of the national guard as requested by Trump.   Clearly it went against their biased narrative.   

 

[Justafan]

3 hours ago, Little Earl said:

 

Its also a known fact that they cherry picked the video footage they used.  And they outright ignored Pelosi's rejection of the national guard as requested by Trump.   Clearly it went against their biased narrative.   

 

Don't get it twisted. Republicans have shanked their sacred duty. Outside of a handful that placed their country over their party, it is full of cowards and morally bankrupt idiots who have proven they are easily corruptable. J6 was an embarrassment to our country, and people deserve to be held accountable for it. Trump is the worst president in US history, and many of the Republicans that follow him are the most self-serving, twisted, mouth-breathers I've ever had the displeasure of being represented by in Congress. The Democrats are not innocents, and they have plenty of things to criticize, and that deserves to be said. I also think it's unfair to lump all republican voters into the buckets that many liberals would like to, but that doesn't mean we're on the same side. The Dems have their crazies, and they have some dumbasses, but they didn't sell their souls and flush the Constitution down the toilet to try and hold on to power. Your people did that. There is no excuse for supporting that amoral asshole - the orange turd, and I hope that history remembers this iteration of the republican party with as much disgust and disdain as I do. 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2024 by Justafan

[OILERMAN]

The Jan 6 hearings were well done, fair and non political. Almost all of the witnesses were Republicans, some that even said they still supported Trump. The public deserved these hearings. 

 

The Hunter Biden hearings were such a joke the Republicans wanted to do them in private and their main witness was charged with lying to the FBI. These were 100% political. 

[Justafan]

3 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

The Jan 6 hearings were well done, fair and non political. Almost all of the witnesses were Republicans, some that even said they still supported Trump. The public deserved these hearings. 

 

The Hunter Biden hearings were such a joke the Republicans wanted to do them in private and their main witness was charged with lying to the FBI. These were 100% political. 

Just to clarify. It wasn't my assertion that the J6 hearings were not justified or that nothing should have come from them. Hell, I believe people were treated too kindly.

 

It's that the Democrats saw it, and other investigations, as a tool to gain political advantage, and that was their primary motivation even beyond justice. Just because you can justify a hearing doesn't mean you don't have political motivation to use it as a cudgel to weaken your opponent and make yourself look good prior to elections, which is exactly what Dems did. 

[MadMax]

49 minutes ago, Justafan said:

It's that the Democrats saw it, and other investigations, as a tool to gain political advantage, and that was their primary motivation even beyond justice. Just because you can justify a hearing doesn't mean you don't have political motivation to use it as a cudgel to weaken your opponent and make yourself look good prior to elections, which is exactly what Dems did. 

Ok.  Yes, the Democrats are rightfully seeing this as a political advantage.  Why not?  It was served up on a silver platter.  But do you think, that if J6 hadn't went down as is did, that the Democrats would have opened an investigation into any of this stuff like the Republicans have with the baseless Hunter farce?  That's the difference.  We have video evidence of what went down J6.  I was in my home office watching it all unfold as it went down, in real time. 

[nine]

6 hours ago, Little Earl said:

 

Its also a known fact that they cherry picked the video footage they used.  And they outright ignored Pelosi's rejection of the national guard as requested by Trump.   Clearly it went against their biased narrative.   

 

 

 Kinda like when a guy goes to court for robbing a bank, the biased prosecutors only show cherry-picked video footage that shows him in the bank waving a gun around and theatening employees and customers and then running out with the money.   

 

Why don't they show the jury footage from the fifty other businesses on that same block that WEREN'T robbed that day and never felt threatened at all and didn't lose a single dime ?      Why aren't they showing that footage?    The whole thing  is so unfair and prejudicial.....totally rigged.