Starkiller Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, headhunter said: Do you just want to live in a cult or something because I have no idea what kinda structure you want for the country. The happiest countries on earth are all democratic socialist countries. https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2022/03/18/ranked-the-20-happiest-countries-in-the-world-in-2022/?sh=3ed046bb35d5 Edited July 25, 2022 by Starkiller Jerry Blair, and IrishTitansFan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WG53 Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, headhunter said: Do you just want to live in a cult or something because I have no idea what kinda structure you want for the country. You're literally complaining about issues caused by capitalism and then blaming the president for issues that are inherently due to our economic system. You're clueless. pat, and Jerry Blair 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 42 minutes ago, Starkiller said: The happiest countries on earth are all democratic socialist countries. https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2022/03/18/ranked-the-20-happiest-countries-in-the-world-in-2022/?sh=3ed046bb35d5 These are all still countries that are very much capitalist countries. I think we should stop trying to force that term when it's not even necessarily that accurate. Getting into a sematic debate about what "democratic socialism" is, is counterproductive. headhunter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Titans279 said: These are all still countries that are very much capitalist countries. I think we should stop trying to force that term when it's not even necessarily that accurate. Getting into a sematic debate about what "democratic socialism" is, is counterproductive. Thus the distinction between “socialism” and “democratic socialism”. New Zealand and Sweden and whatever country where people are happy isn’t being run like Cuba or Venezuela. No one here is in favor of countries generally described as socialism. But democratic socialist countries are a very different story. Jerry Blair, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 It's so freaking weird how every Republican turns into a parrot. There are some Democrat parrots here but every single self proclaimed Republican might as well be a bot. I swear it didn't used to be this way. Jerry Blair, ChemEngr79, and CreepingDeath 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldschool Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 Sigh pat, and tgo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nine Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 On 7/26/2022 at 7:33 AM, EinC said: It didnt use to be this way. There was a time when petty shit didnt bother people. Disagree. People aren't happy unless they're unhappy....they always have to have something to be pissed off about. And in the absence of a huge existential crises, they'll find some minor petty shit and act like it's a big deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, tgo said: The funny part of this argument is he apparently achieved this by not being engaged with congress or involved in the negotiations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted July 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Just now, Titans279 said: The funny part of this argument is he apparently achieved this by not being engaged with congress or involved in the negotiations. He’s been involved heavily in certain negotiations - like he was working daily with Chris Murphy on the gun bill for instance IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, tgo said: He’s been involved heavily in certain negotiations - like he was working daily with Chris Murphy on the gun bill for instance Dude will literally complain about anything. His dream girl could show up to his house naked ready to go and he'd find something to bitch about. Eeyore gonna eeyore. tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, oldschool said: Dude will literally complain about anything. His dream girl could show up to his house naked ready to go and he'd find something to bitch about. Eeyore gonna eeyore. Oh Lighten up. Nothing I said is a complaint. I think it’s interesting that the secret really is for the president to back away. It’s an extension of the old “secret congress” in my opinion. The president, no matter who it is, brings tons of attention and polarization to bills which actually decreases the odds something passes. IsntLifeFunny, and tgo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted July 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Titans279 said: Oh Lighten up. Nothing I said is a complaint. I think it’s interesting that the secret really is for the president to back away. It’s an extension of the old “secret congress” in my opinion. The president, no matter who it is, brings tons of attention and polarization to bills which actually decreases the odds something passes. Yeah that’s kind of an advantage of the “passive” executive style vs the “bully” executive style. Each style has their place and use, but sometimes behind the scenes or hands-off negotiating latitude gets more accomplished in the end. I actually think with a more aggressive/polarizing president - Manchin could have been forced out of the party or decided to leave since he was right on the edge- (see what happened with W Bush and the 50/50 Congress). And of course that would be very bad for getting bills up for Senate votes and for judicial nominations which the admin has been stacking up at a historic clip. The whole dynamic right now is a tight rope balancing act in DC. Edited July 27, 2022 by tgo oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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