IsntLifeFunny Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, El Guapo said: What are the numbers of border crossings under Joe compared to Trump? You blamed everything you didn’t like on Trump. Now when everything is shit, you absolve him of any fault. Notice the rates spiked in 2019 and were on a massive uptick. 2021 was the highest we’ve seen since 2000, but does that take away from the fact 2019 had the highest rate since 05? I guess I don’t understand the point. The uptick started under Trump and only slowed because of Covid. Edited June 6, 2022 by IsntLifeFunny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 I don’t blame Trump for the immigration spike in 19. I blame the destabilization of South and Central America. Even with very restrictive laws under Trump the levels jumped to their highest since the middle of the Bush Administration. Seems like it’s a more nuanced and complicated issue than some want to believe. Jerry Blair, and oldschool 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 39 minutes ago, El Guapo said: What are the numbers of border crossings under Joe compared to Trump? You blamed everything you didn’t like on Trump. Now when everything is shit, you absolve him of any fault. If only Trump could have gotten the wall built! Too bad Steve Bannon stole the money the chumps were donating and then Trump pardoned him for doing it. Tell me you didn't donate money to that fund Jerry Blair, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamo9 Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 53 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I don’t blame Trump for the immigration spike in 19. I blame the destabilization of South and Central America. Even with very restrictive laws under Trump the levels jumped to their highest since the middle of the Bush Administration. Seems like it’s a more nuanced and complicated issue than some want to believe. I hear what you are saying about multiple reasons but don't forget this. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/09/17/761266169/trump-froze-aid-to-guatemala-now-programs-are-shutting-down IsntLifeFunny, Jerry Blair, Starkiller, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, El Guapo said: What are the numbers of border crossings under Joe compared to Trump? You blamed everything you didn’t like on Trump. Now when everything is shit, you absolve him of any fault. I never blamed everything on Trump. I blamed him for what he deserved blame for (which was still a lot). For example, immigration. I never blamed Trump for illegal immigration. It has been going on for decades. It didn’t just start under Biden any more than it started under Trump. But what I do blame Trump for is lying about fixing it. He sold you idiots a retarded idea and you fell for it hook line and sinker. You made the situation worse by putting Trump in charge. Jerry Blair, tgo, and oldschool 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) Some people hate the "bernie bros", but tbh, I think these kinds of Democrats and the people who celebrate them are the most annoying to me right now. It's far past her time. She should have retired a long time ago. It's like with RGB, although that was entirely about health reasons, not her basic competence. We shouldn't celebrate insanely old people for not retiring when it's their time. McCain held on too long also btw. Hard to ignore Biden in this conversation, but he was not really meant to be the focus of the discussion. I still think he's too old also. Edited June 6, 2022 by Titans279 IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 12 hours ago, Starkiller said: I never blamed everything on Trump. I blamed him for what he deserved blame for (which was still a lot). For example, immigration. I never blamed Trump for illegal immigration. It has been going on for decades. It didn’t just start under Biden any more than it started under Trump. But what I do blame Trump for is lying about fixing it. He sold you idiots a retarded idea and you fell for it hook line and sinker. You made the situation worse by putting Trump in charge. How could it possibly have been worse than now? You ignore the numbers and still blame trump. Unbelievable but not unexpected. Face it. This idiot in charge, the woke morons, and the left are going down and no amount of spin is going to change it. Jamalisms 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-liberal-da-finds-voters-moods-have-changed-even-in-san-francisco/ar-AAY7R6r How is the demon offspring of murderers raised by virulent leftist even electable? Only in SF. Fuck the left and their supporters… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, El Guapo said: How could it possibly have been worse than now? You ignore the numbers and still blame trump. Unbelievable but not unexpected. Face it. This idiot in charge, the woke morons, and the left are going down and no amount of spin is going to change it. No one is going to “ignore the numbers”, but poverty only drives people desperate to try to cross the border to do so in greater numbers. That isn’t happening because Biden is in the White House. It was happening with Trump there, too. His bullshit “solutions” just happened to make things worse, not better. His abject failure is proven by those numbers. Jerry Blair 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-liberal-da-finds-voters-moods-have-changed-even-in-san-francisco/ar-AAY7R6r How is the demon offspring of murderers raised by virulent leftist even electable? Only in SF. Fuck the left and their supporters… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Starkiller said: No one is going to “ignore the numbers”, but poverty only drives people desperate to try to cross the border to do so in greater numbers. That isn’t happening because Biden is in the White House. It was happening with Trump there, too. His bullshit “solutions” just happened to make things worse, not better. His abject failure is proven by those numbers. Really? So the surge in illegals currently is because of Trump? Energy and gas prices have nothing to do with Biden’s war on fossil fuels? The greens? Pushing electric vehicles? Cmon, man… headhunter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, El Guapo said: Really? So the surge in illegals currently is because of Trump? Energy and gas prices have nothing to do with Biden’s war on fossil fuels? The greens? Pushing electric vehicles? Cmon, man… I specifically said it was due to poverty. But yes, it is also partly due to Trump wasting 4 years doing nothing to actually improve the situation, thus he made things worse… No, sucker, energy prices have nothing to do with Biden policies. Even if Biden signed an executive order opening every square foot of American soil and coastal waters to drilling it would take longer than his term in office for any of that oil or natural gas to hit the market. Anyway, the energy producers of America specifically have said they aren’t going to boost production ahead of schedule. Why would they? Keeping supply artificially low is making them a fortune. Jerry Blair 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 10 hours ago, El Guapo said: Really? So the surge in illegals currently is because of Trump? Energy and gas prices have nothing to do with Biden’s war on fossil fuels? The greens? Pushing electric vehicles? Cmon, man… Go ahead and explain what policies had made fuel prices rise and to what degree. Also, you could explain how this affects global fuel prices. Come on doc, theoretically you should be remotely intelligent. Let’s see it. Let’s see some numbers. Let’s see some some graphs. Let’s see anything that shows you have any grasp of the issue. Come on, I really want to see this. lol OILERMAN, WG53, and oldschool 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeFan Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, Rogue said: Go ahead and explain what policies had made fuel prices rise and to what degree. Also, you could explain how this affects global fuel prices. Come on doc, theoretically you should be remotely intelligent. Let’s see it. Let’s see some numbers. Let’s see some some graphs. Let’s see anything that shows you have any grasp of the issue. Come on, I really want to see this. lol Yeah, there are no articles you can research on your own that explain what Biden policies have contributed to rising gas prices. Lol Jamalisms 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 Has Biden made a positive or negative impact with fuel prices and inflation? Should be as simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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