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I thought both candidates represented themselves very well.    Not that either guy did a particularly good job.....but they got their message across.

 

Trump had his list of bullet points he wanted to focus on and steered the conversation that way at every opportunity.    As per usual, he was vague and evasive about his plans if re-elected, and tried to make it more about attacking Biden's family and his track record as VP.

 

Biden levied plenty of criticism at Trump, but did a better job of staying on topic and presenting for his plans and vision for America's future if elected.     However.... on those occasions where he went on the offensive and attacked Trump, he missed a lot of opportunities and left a LOT on the table.     There were numerous times where  Trump made ridiculous statements where Biden could have easily taken him down with a kill shot....but Biden either offered a watered-down response or bypassed it entirely.     In football terms, it was like Trump left a WR standing uncovered in the end zone, jumping up and down and waving his arms.....but Biden didn't see him and went for the checkdown or threw it away.

 

I felt like the final debate didn't really influence or change anyone's mind either way;   it simply affirmed opinions for the supporters on both sides.   I'm sure Trump supporters loved it and thought he was spectacular..... he delivered the same narcissistic bullshit and highly partisan bluster that has defined him from day one.     Biden presented a very different style and vision for America's future.....and even if people aren't completely sold on him as President,  he's still a huge and welcome improvement over the current state of affairs.

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1 hour ago, nine said:

In football terms, it was like Trump left a WR standing uncovered in the end zone, jumping up and down and waving his arms.....but Biden didn't see him and went for the checkdown or threw it away.

It was like the Ravens PO game last year.  Trump was Mariota, flanked out wide to the right, waving his arms and wide open in the end zone.  Instead Biden (Henry) threw a jump pass TD to Corey Davis.  Ball game!

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It was Joe’s biggest gaffe by far.  Said so last night.  It’s a bad look in a lot of important states and could even cause damage down a ticket unless other Democrats get away from it.  
 

Even the tone the moderator took when she said “Why would you do that?” after he said it had an air of WTF dude.  

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4 minutes ago, Mercalius said:

It was Joe’s biggest gaffe by far.  Said so last night.  It’s a bad look in a lot of important states and could even cause damage down a ticket unless other Democrats get away from it.  
 

Even the tone the moderator took when she said “Why would you do that?” after he said it had an air of WTF dude.  


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Democrats have the wrong message on this stuff nationally imo. It should be that they’re not going to “ban” any industries, but rather make the green economy so strong that the jobs and efficiencies will manifest naturally and produce better profit margins to the point of fossil fuels being less profitable like we’re seeing happen with coal now, dying a natural and gradual capitalist death. This way there is an assurance of employment nationally and opportunity for blue collar energy workers. 
 

But his remark about oil slicks on the windshield growing up was an effective and poignant point. 

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We HAVE to move away from fossil fuels or look for another planet to inhabit in 50 years. The oil industry will hang on as long as they have someone in office who will look the other way. It's a bold move to state that opinion about it in an election year but that's what we need is bold leadership. It is not going to be the popular opinion but this is not the 1960s.  

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3 hours ago, Mercalius said:

It was Joe’s biggest gaffe by far.  Said so last night.  It’s a bad look in a lot of important states and could even cause damage down a ticket unless other Democrats get away from it.  
 

Even the tone the moderator took when she said “Why would you do that?” after he said it had an air of WTF dude.  

Hence the reason for the post debate clarification. He knew he fucked up saying it. 

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