Bulluck4dmvp Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 10 minutes ago, TeamRamrod said: Solid and ideal titanskick8851 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 2 hours ago, BTiger3733 said: One of the most insane takes I've seen on this forum, impressive. Because there are mitigating circumstances for the record. Tough division, Covid, and it's fucking Texas Tech. If you look at the things he controlled, a lot of success came out of his coaching stops. TerryBoats 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 1 hour ago, TeamRamrod said: A welcome departure from the search criteria last time around. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Face Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 6 hours ago, Callidus said: Even though i said I dont have enough info to make a real choice atm, a run it back with the best of the old days coaching staff is kinda growing on me. Idk if they would all be interested but a starting point of Arthur Smith, Mike Munchak, and Jim Schwartz would have my ears standing up a bit. I think Schwartz would be a GREAT hire. The guys been a great DC for going on 2 1/2 decades at this point & may actually be getting better. His recent work with Cleveland & in ‘21 with us as Asst HC has been very impressive. His system is also very well suited for the modern game, with the emphasis on rushing 4 & covering though he’s gotten a bit more aggressive with slightly more frequent, well timed blitzes. Besides that there’s 2 other reasons I really like him: 1-He’s not the typical DC hire. Granted he had young Stafford in his first go in Detroit but they threw it relentlessly. I think at least 2 years they passed more than anybody else. I’m not saying he’d do that here nor would I want him to, but he’s also not going to insist on running the ball, not making mistakes, and winning 16-14 games. He’s a very smart guy & knows you have to throw well to win. He also has a pretty huge Rolodex & has worked with some great offensive coaching trees. 2-Most importantly I think he learned a lot from mistakes in his first tenure. I’m sure most here remember but he was considered more of an X’s & O’s chalkboard type. He had an MBA I believe from Northwestern & was one of BB’s interns back in the day. I think he had a bit of a complex about not having played at a high level & tried too hard in Detroit to create a nasty culture. Btwn the fight with Harbaugh post game & the constant penalties & late hits on QB’s (that was also a problem at times in Tennessee) he tried too hard & the team wasn’t very disciplined. He seems way more mature now. That to me was what really did him in but he’s a very smart guy & gets it. I think he’ll have a great 2nd act if given the chance. I also like that he seems to genuinely love Nashville & his time here. I think he’d really be invested in turning the team around. Just my 2 cents. Callidus, and IowaOiler 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 9 hours ago, Jamalisms said: Loser in college. Loser in the NFL. Other than hoping it's different from everything he's ever shown as a head coach, what is there to like? Look at Mariota's numbers under him. He's one of the better OCs in the league, and his positive impact on talented QBs is unquestionable (Mahomes, Murray, Daniels, even MM) The logic is that you pair that with a good DC, a great QB, a better roster than the Cardinals and Texas Tech Raiders had, and the results will take care of themselves. I don't think football is any deeper than that. I don't think there's anything about game management etc which is as important as coaches calling quality plays throughout the entirety of the game. Great college coaches have failed miserably in the NFL (Saban), and great NFL coaches have failed in the NCAA. They may as well be different sports, as far as the responsibilities of the HC in concerned. Arizona was the worst team in the league and in the playoffs just a few years after he took over. He did better than many others who attempted to take the leap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanskick8851 Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 (edited) This seems about as complete a list as there could be right now: HC Candidates w/ past HC experience Matt Nagy - Chiefs OC (former Bears HC) Art Smith - Steelers OC (former Falcons HC/former Titans OC) Mike McCarthy - Former Cowboys + Packers HC Eddie George - BGSU HC (former TSU HC/former Titans player) Kliff Kingsbury - Commanders OC (former Cardinals HC/former Texas Tech HC) Jeff Halfey - Packers DC (former BC HC) Robert Saleh - 49ers DC (former Jets HC) Brian Flores - Vikings DC (former Dolphins HC) Mike McCoy - Titans Interim HC (former Chargers HC) Vance Joseph - Broncos DC (former Broncos HC) Jim Schwartz - Browns DC (former Lions HC/former Titans DC) No HC Experience Mike Kafka - Giants OC Jesse Minter - Chargers DC Joe Brady - Bills OC Zac Robinson - Falcons OC Anthony Campanile - Jaguars DC Chris Shula - Rams DC Josh Grizzard - Buccaneers OC Klint Kubiak - Seahawks OC Adam Stenavich - Packers OC Todd Monken - Ravens OC Anthony Weaver - Dolphins DC Lou Anaruno - Colts DC Long shots (if let go) Jon Harbaugh - Ravens HC Mike Tomlin - Steelers HC Kevin Stefanski - Browns HC Edited October 19 by titanskick8851 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 19 minutes ago, titanskick8851 said: This seems about as complete a list as there could be right now: HC Candidates w/ past HC experience Matt Nagy - Chiefs OC (former Bears HC) Art Smith - Steelers OC (former Falcons HC/former Titans OC) Mike McCarthy - Former Cowboys + Packers HC Eddie George - BGSU HC (former TSU HC/former Titans player) Kliff Kingsbury - Commanders OC (former Cardinals HC/former Texas Tech HC) Jeff Halfey - Packers DC (former BC HC) Robert Saleh - 49ers DC (former Jets HC) Brian Flores - Vikings DC (former Dolphins HC) Mike McCoy - Titans Interim HC (former Chargers HC) Vance Joseph - Broncos DC (former Broncos HC) Jim Schwartz - Browns DC (former Lions HC/former Titans DC) No HC Experience Mike Kafka - Giants OC Jesse Minter - Chargers DC Joe Brady - Bills OC Anthony Campanile - Jaguars DC Chris Shula - Rams DC Josh Grizzard - Buccaneers OC Klint Kubiak - Seahawks OC Adam Stenavich - Packers OC Todd Monken - Ravens OC Anthony Weaver - Dolphins DC Lou Anaruno - Colts DC Long shots (if let go) Jon Harbaugh - Ravens HC Mike Tomlin - Steelers HC Kevin Stefanski - Browns HC Not that I expect he will heavily feature but would also be worthwhile talking with Falcons OC Zac Robinson who has the Falcons 2nd in total offense this season. titanskick8851 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanskick8851 Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 5 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Not that I expect he will heavily feature but would also be worthwhile talking with Falcons OC Zac Robinson who has the Falcons 2nd in total offense this season. Good catch. Pretty crazy they are 2nd in total offense considering Penix really wasn’t playing that well the first month of the season. With Robinson the biggest question will be can he resist the boatload of money that Oklahoma State is going to back up to his front door. May be too much to say no to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 11 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Not that I expect he will heavily feature but would also be worthwhile talking with Falcons OC Zac Robinson who has the Falcons 2nd in total offense this season. Penix is throwing into tight coverage at the 5th lowest rate. Good sign that he's getting help from the OC. Listening to him in interviews, I get McVay vibes. I'm just concerned that the FO will be worried that they'll make the same mistake they did with Callahan, although Robinson is much smarter and a much better candidate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 16 minutes ago, TerryBoats said: Penix is throwing into tight coverage at the 5th lowest rate. Good sign that he's getting help from the OC. Listening to him in interviews, I get McVay vibes. I'm just concerned that the FO will be worried that they'll make the same mistake they did with Callahan, although Robinson is much smarter and a much better candidate. I would expect there is very little chance they go with Robinson but it certainly doesn't hurt to interview him and pick his brain as he is one of the bright young upcoming minds in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 42 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: I would expect there is very little chance they go with Robinson but it certainly doesn't hurt to interview him and pick his brain as he is one of the bright young upcoming minds in the game. If Atlanta's offense continues to play at this level, what reasons do you have for thinking they wouldn't consider Robinson? I'm concerned about their low scoring total and red zone offense, but I also think that is something which will work itself out if they continue moving the ball this well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somedude Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 It won't happen, but it would be cool if Kyle Shanahan were fired. TerryBoats, and AvgJoe 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 (edited) 40 minutes ago, TerryBoats said: If Atlanta's offense continues to play at this level, what reasons do you have for thinking they wouldn't consider Robinson? I'm concerned about their low scoring total and red zone offense, but I also think that is something which will work itself out if they continue moving the ball this well. It would take one of these first time HC options to absolute blow them away after the Callahan debacle not to hire someone with HC experience. This team is in a build from the foundation stage they need someone who can lead and instil a hard working and competitive culture especially when this will be such a young team once they cull the likes of Sneed/Pollard/Ridley and Zeitler this offseason. Edited October 19 by AussieTitanFan08 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: It would take one of these first time HC options to absolute blow them away after the Callahan debacle not to hire someone with HC experience. This team is in a build from the foundation stage they need someone who can lead and instil a hard working and competitive culture especially when this will be such a young team once they cull the likes of Sneed/Pollard/Ridley and Zeitler this offseason. I think it doesn't change what they want - a young bright offensive coach to give their franchise QB consistency throughout his career. There are now more options than the were at that time, a more appealing QB, and plenty more examples of young OCs successfully making the transition to HC (I'm projection Coen and Johnson here). The first phase was forcing Callahan to relinquish playcalling duties - one of the major reasons he was hired. I still believe this is their top concern. Edited October 19 by TerryBoats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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