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2 hours ago, Starkiller said:

It’s hardly the same when Femi has barely played the position. He was an inside LB a year ago with no edge experience. He isn’t just some athlete who failed to produce in college. 

The reason he didn't produce the sacks is important context and I'm not discounting it, however, that still means we don't have any evidence that he can do it. We're counting on him developing the ability to do it which might or might not happen and if it happens will likely take a few years of development to get there. This is fundamentally different than drafting a guy with proven sack production. You're taking a bigger risk than usual no matter how you slice it. 

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Yea, he totally sucks and is a bust, he's also way better than Richardson 

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5 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

The reason he didn't produce the sacks is important context and I'm not discounting it, however, that still means we don't have any evidence that he can do it. We're counting on him developing the ability to do it which might or might not happen and if it happens will likely take a few years of development to get there. This is fundamentally different than drafting a guy with proven sack production. You're taking a bigger risk than usual no matter how you slice it. 

Well he was impressive at Senior Bowl practices against some of the top available OTs, which helped push him up draft boards. That doesn’t guarantee anything but it shows he can do it. 
 

He's going to take time to develop, but he has plenty of upside based on his athleticism. And we are in a position to be patient with him.

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7 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

Well he was impressive at Senior Bowl practices against some of the top available OTs, which helped push him up draft boards. That doesn’t guarantee anything but it shows he can do it. 
 

He's going to take time to develop, but he has plenty of upside based on his athleticism. And we are in a position to be patient with him.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree that good performance in senior bowl practices is evidence that he can produce sacks. I'd argue that his previous season of not being able to produce many sacks against OTs that weren't the best available prospects is much more indicative. Now he has definitely shown ability to set and edge and penetrate against the run so it's not like I think he's a bum. I do however think it's fair to question his ability to rush the passer. I hope my doubts are ill-founded.

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19 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Eh, more like a double to me. 

That sounds about right .  Getting a starting level DE who isn’t a star with a mid second round pick.

 

If they got a Max Crosby/Danielle Hunter (insert your fav non round 1 DE), it’s a win . getting a Morgan clone isn’t   a super massive outlier one.

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13 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Eh, more like a double to me. 

 

We drafted Morgan 16th overall. For a middle 1st round pick it's a double, if that. But for a guy we got 50th overall? To average around 6/7 sacks a game (Morgan's career avg) would be pretty close to a homerun. Maybe downgrade to a triple if not a homerun. If Femi can swing up and hit around 8 or 9 on avg that'd be a grand slam for his draft slot.

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2 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

We drafted Morgan 16th overall. For a middle 1st round pick it's a double, if that. But for a guy we got 50th overall? To average around 6/7 sacks a game (Morgan's career avg) would be pretty close to a homerun. Maybe downgrade to a triple if not a homerun. If Femi can swing up and hit around 8 or 9 on avg that'd be a grand slam for his draft slot.

The problem here is that DE’s like Morgan/Preston/ Zadarius Smith are available in FA.  

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5 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

We drafted Morgan 16th overall. For a middle 1st round pick it's a double, if that. But for a guy we got 50th overall? To average around 6/7 sacks a game (Morgan's career avg) would be pretty close to a homerun. Maybe downgrade to a triple if not a homerun. If Femi can swing up and hit around 8 or 9 on avg that'd be a grand slam for his draft slot.

I drastically underestimated how good morgan was  100ish sacks a year is impressive.

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10 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

I can't fucking win tonight. Just shoot me in the head and bury me somewhere out back.

Im the king of typos, you'll be alright. 

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3 minutes ago, Jamalisms said:

https://bsky.app/profile/mikegiardi.bsky.social/post/3lwxiwxkhw22n

 

File this under "bullshit I don't miss."

I was going to make a joke about what vrable was going to say when someone asked him about that injury but couldnt think of anything good. 

 

This is pretty epic even for vrable. Maybe he just never knew when anyone was hurt while he was here lol. Just shows up on gameday and asks where is my rb? Broken foot? Wtf....

 

Where is ben jones i need a hug. 

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