scine09 Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 32/32 teams would take a QB if they don’t have one and think that one is out there that they believe in. They may be wrong of course but no team is passing that up. titanruss, japan, IsntLifeFunny, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Justafan said: I think Titans fans are absolutely crazy if they don't have serious concerns about Callahan and this offense after what we witnessed last year. Yes, it's true that some of the play design was good, and we saw more receivers running open, and it's also true that the QB play was awful. Still, 3-13, and not a single thing on the field that made me feel good about this team going forward. I really wish they would have fired his Franklin the turtle ass looking best friend of an OC. Would have allowed someone much more competent to deal with the O and allowed Cally to grow in the HC role. Edited August 17 by TheBukafax Justafan, and prometheus 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 5 hours ago, Justafan said: The Titans HAD to take Ward once he graded out but it definitely would not have been the dumbest thing ever to take Carter or even trade back a spot and still take Carter. Ward has all the traits and characteristics that trend towards him being at worse a upper 1/3 QB. He was the no-brainer and if we did anything differently we absolutely would deserve the ridicule we'd be receiving years after IsntLifeFunny, and titanruss 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 19 minutes ago, scine09 said: That’s nonsense. You have to take the chance if you believe in the guy. I already said they had to take Ward, but the logic goes both ways. You're just tying yourself into a pretzel because you're basing your belief on backwards logic. "IF Ward ends up being the real deal". Yea, no shit. SleepingTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 15 minutes ago, rns90 said: That’s the chance you have to take when you don’t have a qb and are in position to take one. The Titans aren’t alone in this. Teams bypass other positions/trade bounties because of the qb importance. They thought that he had the makings of one. And so far it doesn’t seem wrong. Don't necessarily disagree with any of that. I'm just pointing out the fallacy in some of the thinking here saying it would have been the dumbest thing ever. No, it would not have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 17 minutes ago, Justafan said: I think Titans fans are absolutely crazy if they don't have serious concerns about Callahan and this offense after what we witnessed last year. Yes, it's true that some of the play design was good, and we saw more receivers running open, and it's also true that the QB play was awful. Still, 3-13, and not a single thing on the field that made me feel good about this team going forward. I do have a small, nagging question mark that keeps dancing around in the back of my mind but it's nothing that's making me worried he won't work out. Not yet. There's no way to justify freaking out about him when the team he was coaching had been put together by two absolute units of retardation. Ward's progression, along with the rest of the team, will greatly affect my feelings about him, good or bad. But that's a whole 17-game season away from getting being settled. Right now I have a lot of hope. Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 14 minutes ago, TheBukafax said: I really wish they would have fired his Franklin the turtle ass looking best friend of an OC. Would have allowed someone much more competent to deal with the O and allowed Cally to grow in the HC role. Was never going to happen though. TheBukafax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 16 minutes ago, scine09 said: 32/32 teams would take a QB if they don’t have one and think that one is out there that they believe in. They may be wrong of course but no team is passing that up. This I agree with. They believed in Ward. They had to take him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 8 minutes ago, titansfan said: Ward has all the traits and characteristics that trend towards him being at worse a upper 1/3 QB. He was the no-brainer and if we did anything differently we absolutely would deserve the ridicule we'd be receiving years after I'm sorry but this is just wrong. People will ridicule you based on results. If the Titans went another direction and it worked out, they would be hailed as geniuses. They will be ridiculed regardless if it doesn't work out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Justafan said: I already said they had to take Ward, but the logic goes both ways. You're just tying yourself into a pretzel because you're basing your belief on backwards logic. "IF Ward ends up being the real deal". Yea, no shit. I mean there's no guarantee on any player. You even admitted yourself that the Titans did what every team would do in the same situation. So what's the argument here? Edited August 17 by scine09 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 11 minutes ago, Justafan said: Don't necessarily disagree with any of that. I'm just pointing out the fallacy in some of the thinking here saying it would have been the dumbest thing ever. No, it would not have. There’s a risk obviously. It would have been easier to get on board if the vet qb market was better though. I mean if they had done the trade down and pick Carter scenario. The qb room probably ends up being similar to CLE. Vet+ mid round qb Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgsTitan Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 I suspect no one is going to be able to claim 100% vindication for a very long time, if ever. He will have a lot of good AND bad, and there really no point in debating it because it's done now, and we won't have a clear verdict for 2-3 years. If it were up to me, we'd be analyzing all of Carter' s pash rush moves until we're sick, focusing on what our D will look like with Simmons, Sweat, and him, and what we're gonna do with our extra 1st next year. I didn't like the decision at the time and still don't, but all I can do now is hope for the best. The idea people opposed are staying quiet because we've been silenced and proven wrong is laughable. Im not a little kid playing Madden, so I'm not gonna talk shit like an idiot after Denver week 1 either. This is a very long process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 4 minutes ago, rns90 said: There’s a risk obviously. It would have been easier to get on board if the vet qb market was better though. I mean if they had done the trade down and pick Carter scenario. The qb room probably ends up being similar to CLE. Vet+ mid round qb It does make me a litle curious if they went my route and signed a nobody like allen, spent a late pick on McCord or whoever then would levis have had the surgery or would he have tried to rock on with his sexy shoulder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 Just now, Callidus said: It does make me a litle curious if they went my route and signed a nobody like allen, spent a late pick on McCord or whoever then would levis have had the surgery or would he have tried to rock on with his sexy shoulder? I’m guessing he still would have had it done since he would have been behind the guy they picked and the nobody vet. I think Callahan was done with him at the end of the year. Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenTitan Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 Having a dominant DE is not going to change your franchise around. Look at Myles Garret for the browns literally a hall of famer and they are fucking awful. You take the QB easily. Btw it’s only preseason and let’s wait for a few seasons before we start comparing titanruss, and SleepingTitan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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