NashvilleNinja Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 30 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: It is correct. The coach even had an entire clip. I'm not gonna find it but I saw it. He directly said because people were taking shots at Ward that this was the only way they were going to let him play at all. They had to see the backup in live action. If Ward wanted to play then those were the stipulations or the coach would have held him out of the game. He went in and put up a 30 spot in a half without his WRs lol. I thought the same when I first heard he was held out that something was off about it. They had a weird setup to let him go for the TD record but that was all he was allowed was one half no matter what. Ward sitting out the 2nd half of that game is a Fat Mo's super deluxe nothing burger, especially when you see the context of why he sat out. 2ToneBlueBlood 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, scine09 said: Manning has a winning record against Brady in the playoffs. Hollow considering the last one was during his VY like year and since Brady has 6 more SB appearances and 5 more SB rings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 32 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: It took McNair 7 years to crack the 20 TD pass barrier. That was a real Fisher/Steckel double O special. Run, run, pass, run, run, run, pass, punt. MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 12 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: I went back and looked and actually they re-did this contract in 2004 (after his MVP year) where the poison pill element eventually got added. It always annoyed me why they didn’t serious consider drafting Rodgers in 2005 when they weren’t ever going to pay that . BudsOilers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 25 minutes ago, IowaOiler said: He at least got us to the SB with his roster. They both had the same HC essentially, and you might argue from a star perspective QC did better with Henry, Tannehill, and Brown...but Reese's roster had talent everywhere and was much deeper than QCs. I hate giving Fisher credit for anything, but hard to say he didn't have more qualified coaches than anything meathead brought in. When I finally soured on Fisher I really fucking soured, but before I soured I was a proud card carrying Fishstick. Vrabel is a poor man's version of Fisher in every way. IowaOiler 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: That was a real Fisher/Steckel double O special. Run, run, pass, run, run, run, pass, punt. Somewhat but I remember re-watching the SB in the last year and I was shocked how pedestrian McNair looked as a passer. And this coming from a massive McNair fan. I remember arguing on gotitans (before we all went to titanscentral) when dolts wanted to keep on playing O'Donnell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: When I finally soured on Fisher I really fucking soured, but before I soured I was a proud card carrying Fishstick. Vrabel is a poor man's version of Fisher in every way. The longer Fisher became the CEO coach instead of more hands on, the worse he got. That said, he had shit at QB once McNair was done. NashvilleNinja 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 17 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: Reese's ability to draft went completely out the window when his Director of College Scouting died suddenly. The same guy who was the huge McNair and Kearse advocate..... Some of Reese's decisions once the team was good were god awful. Now how much was him vs Fisher can be debated but asinine things like extending guys like Wycheck and Matthews and then the fuck over of Godfrey.....He botched it so bad they had to cut Mason and Rolle in their primes. Didn't how they handled McNair's contract/ position with the team play into Mason and Rolle leaving? Or was that all business? I always held it against McNair, Mason, and Rolle for going to Baltimore, but maybe if the business had been handled better here that wouldn't have been an issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 45 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: It took McNair 7 years to crack the 20 TD pass barrier. Hot take: I hope Ward is better than McNair also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 35 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: I think if you're including him in discussions with Allen, Lamar, Burrow he'll be a great pick. If we're saying he's as good as Lawrence or Kyler......disappointing. I feel like wards floor is Jordan Love ish. Nash 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 57 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: Reese totally fucked up the salary cap management. Arguably it was worse than Quiver Chin's..... You can't really put that solely on Reese though. At that point Fisher had significant power and pushed very hard to keep the band together. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ToneBlueBlood Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 30 minutes ago, rns90 said: It always annoyed me why they didn’t serious consider drafting Rodgers in 2005 when they weren’t ever going to pay that . I think about this ALL the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 8 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: Didn't how they handled McNair's contract/ position with the team play into Mason and Rolle leaving? Or was that all business? I always held it against McNair, Mason, and Rolle for going to Baltimore, but maybe if the business had been handled better here that wouldn't have been an issue? Kind of. Reese got locked into big deals with Eddie, Rolle, and Mason who all had the same agent. Meanwhile McNair had his big deal and there were some other higher priced vets and they had at that point gone through years of average to poor drafts.....sound familiar? In the same period, they made Randall Godfrey take a straight pay cut to get under the cap in March and then they cut him right before training camp so they could re-sign a backup QB and punter (O'Donnell and Hentrich). After an acrimonious breakup with Eddie George the year prior, Rolle and Mason and their agent refused to restructure and instead wanted extensions when the Titans needed to get under the cap. Hence they got cut and went to Baltimore. NashvilleNinja 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, japan said: You can't really put that solely on Reese though. At that point Fisher had significant power and pushed very hard to keep the band together. they both fucked up. Not sure who to blame on some of the poor drafts when McNair was in his prime esp 2002 and 2003. Fisher owns part of the Godfrey thing since he absolutely had to have NOD as the backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, japan said: You can't really put that solely on Reese though. At that point Fisher had significant power and pushed very hard to keep the band together. To an extent but the cap management was on Reese's ledger and led to them getting boxed in and having to let good players walk.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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