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13 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

 

Most of the morons don't even know the tax on SS goes back into the SS trust fund, it doesn't go into the general fund. It's beyond idiotic

 I was going to call that out and explain earlier.  But what is the point of doing so?

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If you find yourself being forced to defend RFK because of your politics, I'd seriously reevaluate my politics, lol

As a staunch atheist, I really hate Jimmy Carter because he gives Christians a good name!    

So apparently Hegseth was a tax cheat on top of everything else. But somehow an IRS audit is evidence of Biden corruption…  

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On 12/15/2024 at 1:33 PM, OILERMAN said:

 

Did you end up voting for Trump?

No. Of course not. I don’t think Trump will fix anything but I also acknowledge that the Dems campaigned on status quo and most Americans want a change. They were boring, they are corrupt, and they deserved to lose. 

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On 12/15/2024 at 5:18 AM, Justafan said:

Here's an idea. Let's set the tax rate at a reasonable rate that doesn't hinder investment and business growth but also structured in a way that ensures everyone pays their fair share - we can debate over what that actually is. Simultaneously, we can agree that 450+ agencies across the federal government are both unreasonable and unsustainable and that there is a real need to cut spending from nonessential programs and agencies across the country while protecting the essential programs that everyone cares about or that we really need - SS, Medicare, Defense, Infrastructure. We can do that responsibly without just recklessly slashing good programs and agencies.  

 

We can do all of these simultaneously. We can also incentivize people in our country to act in ways that support our country, improve the economy, and behave responsibly through tax structure, creative laws, and reformed regulation and policy. We can provide freedom to everyone without impeding free speech and we can protect vulnerable people without crusading and assuming that 90% of white people are racists. 

 

We can acknowledge that Trump is a terrible person and still also acknowledge that change was needed and that Democrats didn't put forth a convincing argument about the future of our country for most of America. The Dems didn't just lose - the message was rejected. That doesn't mean that the current Republican party is the change that Americans want... it might just mean that the economy wasn't great or that the Democrat message simply no longer resonates with Americans or that many Americans simply don't remember how close we came to a coup. I don't know. I don't have those answers.

 

What I do know is that we can do all of the above together and we don't even have to insult each other or buy into ugly theories about the other half of the country to do it. Just some random thoughts as I continue to read this thread. 

Way too reasonable for this forum. May be too reasonable when politics  which really means money , bribes, sweet deals for political contributions without any oversight. I agree with the idea. And this forum would cease to exist without the insults. 

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Gonna keep all the fun appointments beyond just cabinet rolling along in this thread:

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-nominates-ex-us-senate-candidate-herschel-walker-ambassador-bahamas-2024-12-18/

 

I assume the BMWV* Director position was already filled.  

 

 

(* Bureau of Martians, Werewolves and Vampires) 

 

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22 minutes ago, chef said:

Gonna keep all the fun appointments beyond just cabinet rolling along in this thread:

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-nominates-ex-us-senate-candidate-herschel-walker-ambassador-bahamas-2024-12-18/

 

I assume the BMWV* Director position was already filled.  

 

 

(* Bureau of Martians, Werewolves and Vampires) 

 

That's what some lefties identify as, martians, werewolves and Vampires 

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