Will Levis discussion in Sando's Pick 6 on The Athletic

[smokeater]

14 minutes ago, TeamRamrod said:

Why would Ran go anywhere?

Just an if due to the fact he spent a ton of money in FA, will probably have very few wins to show for it, and the owner has 50% Adams blood running through her veins.  More to say that Ran and BC shouldn’t be tied to the hip together.  

[Callidus]

Just now, 9 Nines said:

If Peyton and Will are willing, this could be done:
 

 

Idk about a straight switch, but the russians attached one dogs head to another dog back in the day and "both" lived for a little while. 

[TeamRamrod]

9 minutes ago, smokeater said:

Just an if due to the fact he spent a ton of money in FA, will probably have very few wins to show for it, and the owner has 50% Adams blood running through her veins.  More to say that Ran and BC shouldn’t be tied to the hip together.  

I think anyone that believes Ran is getting canned this year is going to be very disappointed. I also don’t think it would be very wise to fire him anyway

[smokeater]

10 minutes ago, TeamRamrod said:

I think anyone that believes Ran is getting canned this year is going to be very disappointed. I also don’t think it would be very wise to fire him anyway

I don’t think he will either this year, but I wasn’t necessarily talking about this year only.

[9 Nines]

32 minutes ago, Callidus said:

Idk about a straight switch, but the russians attached one dogs head to another dog back in the day and "both" lived for a little while. 

Do you think Peyton Levis could live long enough to complete a season? 

[NashvilleNinja]

7 hours ago, Bongo59 said:

I do not have any issues with him taking sacks.  His big play ability more than makes up for this.  

 

Taking sacks is ridiculous when you do it in the manner he does it. It's like he's Santa Claus giving out gifts to the pass rushers.

[Callidus]

8 minutes ago, 9 Nines said:

Do you think Peyton Levis could live long enough to complete a season? 

If i remember right it was a few weeks, so if we can make the playoffs we could pull a superbowl out of it lol

[9 Nines]

9 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

Taking sacks is ridiculous when you do it in the manner he does it. It's like he's Santa Claus giving out gifts to the pass rushers.

Jamis Winston was arrested for taking too many sacks from a Walmart shelf-check out line. 

[Callidus]

17 minutes ago, 9 Nines said:

Jamis Winston was arrested for taking too many sacks from a Walmart shelf-check out line. 

Released on good behavior for giving away so many footballs. 

[IsntLifeFunny]

42 minutes ago, TriGun said:

Hey what's up fellas? All season long I been pissed at Will Levis and disappointed. I been saying he isn't the answer since Week 3. I wanted to throw this out there and see if anyone agrees. As much as Levis has irritated me I actually cannot put his ints totally on him. I cannot remember a QB throwing as many picks 6's as consistently as him. I actually put it on the route trees and play designs to be honest. How the plays are designed it's almost too simplistic and easy for defenders to squat on routes in man coverage. The way they are designed is too risky and easy to read imo. I know Levis needs to make the reads, but I really want to see him with a better offensive coordinator or play caller. As much as I was done with Levis and do not want to make excuses, I just think the offensive designs could be much better. 

Callahan has been better the past few weeks at game flow, but at no point have I thought the system itself was too simple. Vrabel's system was simple. This one isn't. 

 

As to individual plays and their route trees, I haven't noticed anything like that. I have, on the other hand, noticed when they've went out of their way to be conservative to try and hide Levis. It seems Callahan has figured out that doesn't work so might as well open up and take the good with the bad. 

[smokeater]

One of the other things that’s exacerbating the sacks right now, besides pocket awareness, is Levis’s crippling fear of an interception.  It’s why he’ll rip the long ball, but only throw the intermediate route when he “sees it, throws it.”  Intermediate routes require more anticipatory throws and hitting receivers across the middle in traffic.  He’s actually done it well a few times this year-he just very inconsistently lets it rip to those routes and fear of the pick keeps him holding the ball for way too long helping cause his ridiculous sack numbers.
 

BC needs to 1, get him to throw the ball away as needed, and 2, teach him and pound into him what NFL open means so he can use that dam cannon to start bruising receiver sternums at 15-20 yds.  Confidence in hitting those routes will cut down on the sacks and make the pocket awareness at least not look quite so bad.  Set-fire, instead of indecision-sack.  Obviously make the OL look a ton better as well.  

Edited November 26, 2024 by smokeater

[OILERMAN]

Right now we're in the "false hope" phase. 

 

He played poorly Sunday but they won the game. As the article points out, he even contributed to the win. He can make some spectacular throws. Those don't make up for the down to down terrible play. 99% of the time you lose with that QB play. 

 

He's going to get people fired

[Oilertattoo]

Arm talent doesn’t make you a great QB. 
 

Levis has a long way to go still and I’m pretty sure it is a mountain he can’t climb. 
 

Though it would be great to be wrong about this. 

[bizzyeddie]

12 hours ago, smokeater said:

Just an if due to the fact he spent a ton of money in FA, will probably have very few wins to show for it, and the owner has 50% Adams blood running through her veins.  More to say that Ran and BC shouldn’t be tied to the hip together.  

yeah but they beat the texans in houston

that will cool down her adams blood

[chef]

4 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Right now we're in the "false hope" phase. 

 

He played poorly Sunday but they won the game. As the article points out, he even contributed to the win. He can make some spectacular throws. Those don't make up for the down to down terrible play. 99% of the time you lose with that QB play. 

 

He's going to get people fired

Felt like a dead cat bounce in the market