Justafan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, OILERMAN said: The things they accused her of lying about were true things she said. You "liked" the crazy bs video. Dems killed Seth Rich, which they and Joe Rogan said. You latched on to that. Of course I liked the video. I was fending off the mob, as usual, and it was the only post pushing back. The only one. EVERYONE else ran to the defense of Maddow and the accusation that people are not any better informed for watching her content than they are watching Joe Rogan. It didn't mean that I endorse or agree with everything in the videos (especially conspiracy theories) and honestly, I clicked on it and expected it to be a run down of the way she frames conversations to influence her audience, not whatever it turned into. I was not at home and posting from my phone, so... you got me... I didn't watch most of the video (s) nor will I. That doesn't change my view of her or the people who watch her content or really anything I said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 53 minutes ago, Justafan said: Of course I liked the video. I was fending off the mob, as usual, and it was the only post pushing back. The only one. That's telling it was the only one. Unhinged ridiculous nonsense. Maybe the mob is right(they are) Starkiller, and MadMax 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: That's telling it was the only one. Unhinged ridiculous nonsense. Maybe the mob is right(they are) Lol. Calling out entertainment journalism is not unhinged, ridiculous, or nonsense. People seriously rely on this stuff to form their world views - very clearly people in this forum - even if not specifically Maddow, others in the same sphere with very much the same intentions and methods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 11 minutes ago, Justafan said: Lol. Calling out entertainment journalism is not unhinged, ridiculous, or nonsense. People seriously rely on this stuff to form their world views - very clearly people in this forum - even if not specifically Maddow, others in the same sphere with very much the same intentions and methods. You're still defending the video, go watch it all. You're right people do rely on stuff like that video, dan and some others for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 I don't get the obsession with Rachel Maddow. There have been people like Rush Limbaugh doing even less factual programs for literally decades. MadMax, ChemEngr79, Jamalisms, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeFan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Germany rejected left politics. The same time @Justafangets transferred over there. Coincidence? Atlas, Justafan, IrishTitansFan, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 7 hours ago, Justafan said: I haven’t watched Rogan ever outside of clips of guests that talk about exercise physiology which was actually really friggin good and clips that other people have posted for me to watch. If you get your political news from Maddow or Rogan, you’re in a thought bubble. Period. I prefer investigative journalism with a bent towards libertarian ideals - guys like Glenn Grenwald, Jason Leopold, and Gabriel Gatehouse. They have their warts but they are actual fact based journalists unlike entertainment journalists such as Maddow. I’ll admit that I also listen to guys like John Stossell but I’m fully aware of his bias and take the things he posts with a big grain of salt. Getting so defensive about it just tells me that people aren’t aware of it… or are but are so ideologically driven that they go out of their way to justify it. The fact that people wrote PAGES to discredit any comparison of Maddow to thought bubbles on the right says a lot in my opinion. I’m sure you will draw your own conclusions. You were fucking wrong when you first said it and you’re still fucking wrong now. You got your ass handed to you when you couldn’t defend your argument and then you try to say it was just an exaggeration. You claim you never watch Rogan so you didn’t know, but how often are you sitting there watching Maddow? Good god man, give it up… Edited February 24 by Starkiller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: You're still defending the video, go watch it all. You're right people do rely on stuff like that video, dan and some others for sure. I'm not defending the video. Far from it. I'm denouncing all of that crap, including videos like that which are produced from yet more entertainment / comedian wannabe journalists and nightly "news" programs that sensationalize every news cycle in order to drive interest or promote a political narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IrishTitansFan Posted February 24 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 35 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said: Germany rejected left politics. The same time @Justafangets transferred over there. Coincidence? The CDU (who will go into government with the social democrats) won the election That is the party of Angela Merkel, who your type accused of being left wing! Edited February 24 by IrishTitansFan pat, Starkiller, Jamalisms, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 12 minutes ago, Starkiller said: You were fucking wrong when you first said it and you’re still fucking wrong now. You got your ass handed to you when you couldn’t defend your argument and then you try to say it was just an exaggeration. You claim you never watch Rogan so you didn’t know, but how often are you sitting there watching Maddow? Good god man, give it up… Hyperbole much? I was not wrong when I rightfully pointed out that people who get their "news" from Maddow are no better informed than those who get their "news" from Rogan. I was not wrong when I said people got extremely defensive about it - here's a great example. I was wrong about the video. Regardless, it's a pointless exercise in arguing for argument's sake... a forte you specialize in so as I said before, if you feel this strongly about it, go argue with a rock. I get it, Maddow is the epitome of perfection in your eyes. She's basically the greatest journalist of all times. Unless I take the time to go through and point out every instance of bias going back a decade, I just have to admit defeat to the mighty starkiller and even I did do that, it would just result in a 4 pages going back and fourth of you taking exception to any slight insult to your deity. No one cares. Get over yourself. It was an offhand comment that got taken too literally and spun WAY out of control to the point we're talking about DNC assassination plots for Christ's sake. Starkiller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) Jesus fucking Christ, stop digging already… People who get their news from The Daily Show proved to be better informed than people who get their news from Fox News. And yes, people who get their news from Rachael Maddow are clearly better informed than people to get it from Joe Rogan. There are plenty of other reliable mainstream sources to get your news from, but you keep trying to compare these 2 people and you keep embarrassing yourself. Edited February 24 by Starkiller Justafan, OILERMAN, and ChemEngr79 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 8 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Jesus fucking Christ, stop digging already… People who get their news from The Daily Show proved to be better informed than people who get their news from Fox News. And yes, people who get their news from Rachael Maddow are clearly better informed than people to get it from Joe Rogan. There are plenty of other reliable mainstream sources to get your news from, but you keep trying to compare these 2 people and you keep embarrassing yourself. The Daily Show? FFS. Okay buddy. You saying retarded shit, doesn't embarass me in the slightest, but keep going, I'm sure no one else is tired of this conversation! Starkiller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Justafan said: The Daily Show? FFS. Okay buddy. You saying retarded shit, doesn't embarass me in the slightest, but keep going, I'm sure no one else is tired of this conversation! It was well proven back during the Bush admin that Daily Show viewers were better informed of the news than Fox News viewers were. It wasn’t because the Daily Show was some great news source, it was because Fox is disinformation. Well Rogan is no better than Fox in terms of reporting real news. But unlike the Daily Show, Maddow reports actual news and isn’t designed to be for entertainment value. Edited February 24 by Starkiller Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Starkiller said: It was well proven back during the Bush admin that Daily Show viewers were better informed of the news than Fox News viewers were. It wasn’t because the Daily Show was some great news source, it was because Fox is disinformation. Well Rogan is no better than Fox in terms of reporting real news. But unlike the Daily Show, Maddow reports actual news and isn’t designed to be for entertainment value. L.O.L. Edited February 24 by Justafan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titandan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 5 hours ago, OILERMAN said: You're still defending the video, go watch it all. You're right people do rely on stuff like that video, dan and some others for sure. Oman. I was at church when I posted the video. I watched the beginning of the video and and the video shows Maddow's fake news about the vaccine that will end covid transmission. I could find plenty of other examples. I posted another more recent one where she blames the Trump admin for buying Tesla cyber trucks with government money (as if it's a crime) as a favor to Elon when, as it turns out, it was actually purchased during the Biden admin. Oman. Instead of criticizing parts of the video that may be conspiracy, stick to the subject and defend your position that Maddow is impeccable and honest as a journalist. I don't care how smart you are a a journalist. High IQ people can also be manipulative and deceptive. Intelligence is fine but that's not the main metric we should be looking for in a journalist. Being curious and asking pertinent questions is much more important. But integrity is the most important in my opinion. Without that, how do you expect people to trust what comes out of your mouth? Maddow "reported" on the Trump Russian collusion scandal for over a year. Not a single apology... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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