2024 General Election - Trump vs Kamala Harris

[nine]

14 hours ago, Titandan said:

I'm not a legal scholar but some advisors gave Trump some advice that probably wasn't going to work.

Trump, who's also probably not a legal expert, decided to ask Pence to not count electoral votes from states that were very suspicious in their election process. At least until they sort out the shenanigans, I don't think that's a deplorable action.  

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3520160-pences-lawyer-told-him-blocking-vote-certification-would-likely-lead-to-court-loss-standoff-with-congress/

 

In any normal election, this would not be acceptable nor honorable. But 2020 was anything but a normal election.  Mass mail in ballots was a problem as it continues to be.  
 

You guys keep dismissing me about being skeptical of the many processes that mail in ballots go through and the many number of hands that these ballots touch that makes the system highly susceptible to the possibility of fraud and cheating.  But vandalism, cheating, fraud, dead voters, and misplaced ballots keep happening.
 

 

Again….no..  No they don’t .   You’re simply repeating the same unfounded rhetoric and debunked allegations of so-called fraud that simply doesn’t exist.  Numerous Republican figures and Republican-funded groups have mounted numerous investigations into these allegations, intent on exposing the rampant election fraud that they were convinced they would find.

 

  And in literally every case, these investigations came up with absolutely nothing.  Zero, zip, nada. They found nothing…because nothing is exactly what’s there.  It simply doesn't exist.   It’s all just theories and paranoid conjecture with literally ZERO substance to support them.  

 

Texas AG Ken Paxton is MAGA to the core.   A couple years ago, Paxton established an election fraud unit specifically for the purpose of rooting out and prosecuting illegitimate, dishonest,  and fraudulent voters….basically the exact same things you’re alleging.  
 

Paxton’s election fraud unit started their first year with a $2.3M budget for investigations and spent every bit of it.  
 

Texas citizens cast over 10 million votes in the 2020 election.   After spending $2.3M investigating numerous allegations, discrepancies, and inconsistencies with the voter roles…..their investigations produced a whopping  FOUR convictions.  

 

Yup,  After spending $2.3M verifying the legitimacy of the ten million votes that were cast…..they identified exactly FOUR instances of voter fraud.  Which comes  out to approximately  0.00004%.    

 

https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/ken-paxton-texas-attorney-general-office-voter-fraud-spending/

 

You can certainly choose to keep believing the assortment of lies, conspiracies, false allegations, and sheer fabrications that are specifically meant to sow mistrust and breed skepticism.    After all…you’re their target demographic.  

And I can promise you these sources are more than content to keep stringing you along, exploiting and monetizing your appetite for bullshit for as long as you’re willing to keep believing it.   

[Mercalius]

Long story short - Trump “lost” PA in 2020 by 80,000 votes.  Dem’s opened Election Day in 2020 with a roughly 1.2 million vote lead due to early voting.  It’s probably gonna be around a 400k lead November 5th.  That’s a net loss of roughly 800k votes from 4 years ago.  And ten times the margins Trump “lost” by.  You sure better hope those voters decided to wait until day of this year lol.  

[ChesterCopperpot1]

55 minutes ago, Strunk'sDessert said:

 

I could be mistaken, but I thought Mark Cuban addressed this. Polymarket only allows foreign investors to place bets on the election. Obviously, if someone is determined, a US citizen could pull out off, but probably not on a large scale. 

 

It's all mostly foreign currency flooding the zone, and guess who that could be? 

 

I'll retract if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty certain on this. 

I think that’s correct. I don’t think poly market and others like it are predictive of what’s going to happen. 

[OILERMAN]

1 hour ago, Titandan said:

You must be completely delusional if you think that Trump's going to deport tens of millions of Asian Americans. 
 

 

Asia is not sending their best!  […] They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.

[OILERMAN]

1 hour ago, Titandan said:

Good time to buy???

 

Absolutely, load up!

[begooode]

5 minutes ago, nine said:

 

Again….no..  No they don’t .   You’re simply repeating the same unfounded rhetoric and debunked allegations of so-called fraud that simply doesn’t exist.  Numerous Republican figures and Republican-funded groups have mounted numerous investigations into these allegations, intent on exposing the rampant election fraud that they were convinced they would find.

 

  And in literally every case, these investigations came up with absolutely nothing.  Zero, zip, nada. They found nothing…because nothing is exactly what’s there.  It simply doesn't exist.

 

Texas AG Ken Paxton is MAGA to the core.   A couple years ago, Paxton established an election fraud unit specifically for the purpose of rooting out and prosecuting illegitimate, dishonest,  and fraudulent voters….basically the exact same things you’re alleging.  
 

Paxton’s election fraud unit started their first year with a $2.3M budget for investigations and spent every bit of it.  
 

Texas citizens cast over 10 million votes in the 2020 election.   After spending $2.3M investigating numerous allegations, discrepancies, and inconsistencies with the voter roles…..their investigations produced a whopping  FOUR convictions.  

 

Yup,  After spending $2.3M verifying the legitimacy of the ten million votes that were cast…..they identified exactly FOUR instances of voter fraud.  Which comes  out to approximately  0.00004%.    

 

https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/ken-paxton-texas-attorney-general-office-voter-fraud-spending/

 

You can certainly choose to keep believing the assortment of lies, conspiracies, false allegations, and sheer fabrications that are specifically meant to sow mistrust and breed skepticism.    After all…you’re their target demographic.  

And I can promise you these sources are more than content to keep stringing you along, exploiting and monetizing your appetite for bullshit for as long as you’re willing to keep believing it.   

 

Trump’s own failed election integrity commission that closed shop within 2 years in his administration after finding nothing — https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d

 

DeSantis failed election integrity commission that came up with 20 cases —

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/florida-gov-desantis-election-police-unit-announces-20-voter-fraud-cases

[OILERMAN]

1 hour ago, Strunk'sDessert said:

 

I could be mistaken, but I thought Mark Cuban addressed this. Polymarket only allows foreign investors to place bets on the election. Obviously, if someone is determined, a US citizen could pull out off, but probably not on a large scale. 

 

It's all mostly foreign currency flooding the zone, and guess who that could be? 

 

I'll retract if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty certain on this. 

 

He did, he was on Bill Mahar and addressed it 

 

 

[rns90]

Here’s actual numbers and this requires logic which is difficult for some;

 

LANSING — More than half a million people have cast ballots in person since Saturday, the first statewide day of early voting, according to the latest numbers from the Michigan Secretary of State.

On the first day of early in-person voting for most state residents, Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson announced that 145,134 people cast votes, far exceeding the expectations of state and local election officials. That number has more than tripled, according to numbers updated early Wednesday.

 

More than 505,000 people have voted in person and, overall, more than 2 million people in Michigan have voted when counting absentee ballots already returned.

Among the top five counties for early voting, more than 268,000 have voted — 71,000 in Wayne County alone.

Later on in article; top 5 counties:

 

As of Oct. 29, here are the top five counties where voters cast their ballots during early voting:

Wayne County: 71,806

Oakland County: 61,996

Macomb County: 48,472

Kent County: 39,391

Genesee County: 22,255

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2024/10/30/michigan-early-in-person-voting-absentee-ballots/75935337007/

 

Now 4 of those 5 counties were won by Biden.  Wayne County , Rhe one with the most in early voting went for Biden w/68.12 % of the vote.  Oakland was 56.36% for Biden.

Now you can either believe via these actual voting numbers that these Biden strongholds are for whatever reason voting for Trump or they are coming out en masse for Harris.

 

 

 

 

 

[OILERMAN]

1 minute ago, rns90 said:

Here’s actual numbers and this requires logic which is difficult for some;

 

LANSING — More than half a million people have cast ballots in person since Saturday, the first statewide day of early voting, according to the latest numbers from the Michigan Secretary of State.

On the first day of early in-person voting for most state residents, Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson announced that 145,134 people cast votes, far exceeding the expectations of state and local election officials. That number has more than tripled, according to numbers updated early Wednesday.

 

More than 505,000 people have voted in person and, overall, more than 2 million people in Michigan have voted when counting absentee ballots already returned.

Among the top five counties for early voting, more than 268,000 have voted — 71,000 in Wayne County alone.

Later on in article; top 5 counties:

 

As of Oct. 29, here are the top five counties where voters cast their ballots during early voting:

Wayne County: 71,806

Oakland County: 61,996

Macomb County: 48,472

Kent County: 39,391

Genesee County: 22,255

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2024/10/30/michigan-early-in-person-voting-absentee-ballots/75935337007/

 

Now 4 of those 5 counties were won by Biden.  Wayne County , Rhe one with the most in early voting went for Biden w/68.12 % of the vote.  Oakland was 56.36% for Biden.

Now you can either believe via these actual voting numbers that these Biden strongholds are for whatever reason voting for Trump or they are coming out en masse for Harris.

 

Believe what you want, you're in a state of panic!

[rns90]

I’m sure they’ll fake news this or bring up some bullshit poll or data.  I have full faith in the Trumpsters here!

[OILERMAN]

1 minute ago, rns90 said:

I’m sure they’ll fake news this or bring up some bullshit poll or data.  I have full faith in the Trumpsters here!

 

If Kamla wins we know exactly which rubes will be saying it was rigged!

[Titandan]

10 minutes ago, nine said:

 

Again….no..  No they don’t .   You’re simply repeating the same unfounded rhetoric and debunked allegations of so-called fraud that simply doesn’t exist.  Numerous Republican figures and Republican-funded groups have mounted numerous investigations into these allegations, intent on exposing the rampant election fraud that they were convinced they would find.

 

  And in literally every case, these investigations came up with absolutely nothing.  Zero, zip, nada. They found nothing…because nothing is exactly what’s there.  It simply doesn't exist.

 

Texas AG Ken Paxton is MAGA to the core.   A couple years ago, Paxton established an election fraud unit specifically for the purpose of rooting out and prosecuting illegitimate, dishonest,  and fraudulent voters….basically the exact same things you’re alleging.  
 

Paxton’s election fraud unit started their first year with a $2.3M budget for investigations and spent every bit of it.  
 

Texas citizens cast over 10 million votes in the 2020 election.   After spending $2.3M investigating numerous allegations, discrepancies, and inconsistencies with the voter roles…..their investigations produced a whopping  FOUR convictions.  

 

Yup,  After spending $2.3M verifying the legitimacy of the ten million votes that were cast…..they identified exactly FOUR instances of voter fraud.  Which comes  out to approximately  0.00004%.    

 

https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/ken-paxton-texas-attorney-general-office-voter-fraud-spending/

 

You can certainly choose to keep believing the assortment of lies, conspiracies, false allegations, and sheer fabrications that are specifically meant to sow mistrust and breed skepticism.    After all…you’re their target demographic.  

And I can promise you these sources are more than content to keep stringing you along, exploiting and monetizing your appetite for bullshit for as long as you’re willing to keep believing it.   

I repeatedly said that there wasn't enough fraudulent votes officially found to overturn the 2020 election.  And after exploring all legal options, crying like a tyrannical baby dictator, Trump eventually left the Whitehouse and Biden took over.  Unless CNN didn't publish another fictional news story, that's what happened. 

My point is that there were shenanigans on election night. Whether it be 1 or millions.  Government spending $2.3 million is mere pennies...  Robert Mueller's Trump Russia Collusion Probe alone costed $32 mill. 

I just filled out my mail in ballot and I'm set to drop it off at the ballot box.  After seeing articles come out that ballot boxes are getting vandalized or set aflame, how safe are these ballots?  There were cases where empty ballots were found in ditches.  Mailbox areas with random ballots all over the place. How easy is it for DNC or RNC operatives to just grab them and start filling them out to support their own candidate?  Do you know how the Dominion machines work?  Do you know how many ballots were lost or thrown away?  Do you know how many hands touch the ballots before they are counted?  Just because they can't find only a few fraudulent ballots doesn't mean there aren't any.  Do you TRULY believe that Biden legitimately got more votes than political rock star, Barack Obama?  

Why aren't you more concerned about this?  Isn't Trump the dictator?  Do you trust the dictator not to hire hackers to infiltrate the Dominion machines and change votes?  Do you trust MAGA to not steal ballots and forge signatures?  

I fundamentally DO NOT trust the DNC.  I don't trust the way they screwed Bernie in 2016, I don't trust the way all the nominees dropped their bid at the same time and endorsed Biden in 2020, and I don't like the way the undemocratically forced Biden to retire and anoint Kamala as the presidential nominee in 2024. 

You probably don't trust MAGA because we are insurrectionists, violent mobs who forgot their guns on January 6th, and Trump is Hitler incarnate. We are the epitome of evil, right?  Crazy but fine. 

If we are as evil and garbage as your party is calling us, please for the love of God, why not make this election as bullet proof as possible. 

Why wouldn't you want a fair, transparent, and secure election?  Seriously baffling...

[rns90]

2 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

If Kamla wins we know exactly which rubes will be saying it was rigged!

I’m guessing one or two will be a no show and just ignore the result and pretend that they didn’t say a bunch of things in this thread and just openly deny stuff and just change the subject like the GOPers they follow!

[OzTitan]

34 minutes ago, Mercalius said:

Long story short - Trump “lost” PA in 2020 by 80,000 votes.  Dem’s opened Election Day in 2020 with a roughly 1.2 million vote lead due to early voting.  It’s probably gonna be around a 400k lead November 5th.  That’s a net loss of roughly 800k votes from 4 years ago.  And ten times the margins Trump “lost” by.  You sure better hope those voters decided to wait until day of this year lol.  

But didn't you post the other day at your polling place the early voting activity by fellow Republicans was huge? maybe the lead is less now because more Republicans are also voting early this time?

[Mercalius]

1 minute ago, OzTitan said:

But didn't you post the other day at your polling place the early voting activity by fellow Republicans was huge? maybe the lead is less now because more Republicans are also voting early this time?

Again.  Look up the low/no propensity voting information.  The early R vote are mostly new voters who have either never voted or only once in the last decade.  The in day of vote for Rs is still going to be massive.