Callidus Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, SleepingTitan said: I thought 4-7 were solid too. I just see a lot of value in 2nd-3rd rounds that were missed because he fell in love with Sweat. Curious, how would everyone feel right now of instead of sweat we took the Rams deal? I know we don't know if they got the same offer but it was one pick behind us and we could have had in theory... Paul, Kneeland, braswell, Rosengarten or bishop. With the 5th we could have got, Ulofoshio, Kamara, Hampton, Ali oladapo. We would have 2 2nds next year As well. Edited April 30, 2024 by Callidus SleepingTitan, and DCTitan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 I would take the shaky DL for any combo like... Give me bookend tackles and Kamara all day. I wouldnt be mad with going Kneeland and a safety either. Taking Grey likely mean Ulo is off the board but even Bishop Kamara would have been nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Callidus said: Curious, how would everyone feel right now of instead of sweat we took the Rams deal? I know we don't know if they got the same offer but it was one pick behind us and we could have had in theory... Paul, Kneeland, braswell, Rosengarten or bishop. With the 5th we could have got, Ulofoshio, Kamara, Hampton, Ali oladapo. We would have 2 2nds next year As well. I would've loved a trade back. Character and weight aside, I just don't like Sweat's numbers. I'm honestly dumbfounded. Other teams picked interior DL in later rounds, and they carry a lot less risk. If you overdraft a CB/LB/Edge (assuming you're gunning for D), at least you have some upside in exchange for the gamble. A nose tackle doesn't really offer that. Titans would've been better off overdrafting on the offensive side imo ot at least going for a disruptive playmaker on D. Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 38 minutes ago, Callidus said: Curious, how would everyone feel right now of instead of sweat we took the Rams deal? I know we don't know if they got the same offer but it was one pick behind us and we could have had in theory... Paul, Kneeland, braswell, Rosengarten or bishop. With the 5th we could have got, Ulofoshio, Kamara, Hampton, Ali oladapo. We would have 2 2nds next year As well. You should take that trade all day lol Rams got scammed. Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 On paper, of course, you take the deal. Having said that, if the Titans scouted well and landed a real force in the middle of the DL, Sweat has the potential to make the entire defense better. I don't think anyone will regret the pick if he turns into an impact player. At some point though, the Titans need to be able to acquire more draft capital so they can take more swings and increase their odds of hitting over time. No1TitansFan, and Callidus 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 30 minutes ago, Justafan said: On paper, of course, you take the deal. Having said that, if the Titans scouted well and landed a real force in the middle of the DL, Sweat has the potential to make the entire defense better. I don't think anyone will regret the pick if he turns into an impact player. At some point though, the Titans need to be able to acquire more draft capital so they can take more swings and increase their odds of hitting over time. Yep - the Titans traded their 2025 3rd rounder in the Sneed deal so it will be another draft without both day 2 picks..... Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Justafan said: On paper, of course, you take the deal. Having said that, if the Titans scouted well and landed a real force in the middle of the DL, Sweat has the potential to make the entire defense better. I don't think anyone will regret the pick if he turns into an impact player. At some point though, the Titans need to be able to acquire more draft capital so they can take more swings and increase their odds of hitting over time. I'm going to defend them on this. I was critical on the pick. But if they were convinced that his off field issues weren't as big a deal and that he was valued at the spot he was taken by teams, and would have gone soon after the 38th pick, then yeah they were right on not trading down. Edited April 30, 2024 by rns90 Callidus, Justafan, and Starkiller 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 58 minutes ago, TheBukafax said: You should take that trade all day lol Rams got scammed. They valued Fiske as a 1st rounder, so to them it was a fair value. If he becomes the next Aaron Donald then I don’t think they will be bothered by the cost of the trade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 4 minutes ago, rns90 said: I'm going to defend them on this. I was critical on the pick. But if they were convinced that his off field issues weren't as big a deal and that he was valued at the spot he was taken by teams, and would have gone soon after the 38th pick, then yeah they were right on not trading down. And they clearly felt they needed him to fill a role in the new defensive scheme that no one else could fill. VanCityTitan, IsntLifeFunny, and rns90 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mythos27 Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 7 hours ago, rns90 said: The talent hid the scheme flaws or over rid them. Kind of goes to @Mythos27 point that the talent (or lack hereof) was the main issue and not guys like Bowen. Don’t get me wrong , Vrabel’s reliance on the run was a big issue especially against better or equal teams and his lack of flexibility in general (coaching , personnel etc) led to a lot of the issues now. But if they drafted/signed guys to replace the 2019 core better they would not be in this spot now. As incompetent as people now think they are, what really doomed that iteration of the Titans was injuries and not being able to replace the talent that they let walk. You just can't gloss over a record setting amount of injuries two years in a row. Justafan, and BudsOilers 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted May 1, 2024 Report Share Posted May 1, 2024 4 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Again, I don't put much stock into draft grades, but the consensus perception that the Titans had a poor draft is not comforting. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted May 1, 2024 Report Share Posted May 1, 2024 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Justafan said: Again, I don't put much stock into draft grades, but the consensus perception that the Titans had a poor draft is not comforting. Largely it boils down to whether Latham can be a LT and whether Sweat was too big of a reach/risk. Plus, with no 3rd down pick, that either removes some of the grading margin for error or simply lowers the grade directly. The draft media had already pushed Sweat way down their boards after the DWI charge and I’m sure they were split on Latham. I knew after day 2 that the grades were inevitably going to be bad. Edited May 1, 2024 by Starkiller VanCityTitan, and Justafan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted May 1, 2024 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2024 14 minutes ago, Justafan said: Again, I don't put much stock into draft grades, but the consensus perception that the Titans had a poor draft is not comforting. Listening/watching/reading a lot of the commentary about the Titans draft the consensus is they have the same concerns as some of us here there are just too many IFS involved in those top 2 picks that are TBD to right now be overly confident what they will provide the team. Best case scenario is a really solid draft class if Latham becomes a solid or better LT and Sweat keeps his shit together and can punch out 35ish snaps a game as a disruptive IDL. Downside is Latham bombs out at LT and you are still looking for your long term LT and Sweat implodes and can't stay on the field long enough to make a meaningful contribution and this draft class would be a disaster. Personally don't have any issues with the consensus snap judgement of the Titans draft class because I share some of the concerns being discussed. Justafan, and Mythos27 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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