ctm Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 This is good news for Trump because most of the primaries will be over by May 20. But it's terrible news for republicans in general, because if he is conviced, republicans will be too scared to dump him at the convention. He will threaten them with telling his voters to sit out the Nov. election. They will be stuck with him. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nine Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 22 hours ago, ctm said: This is good news for Trump because most of the primaries will be over by May 20. But it's terrible news for republicans in general, because if he is conviced, republicans will be too scared to dump him at the convention. He will threaten them with telling his voters to sit out the Nov. election. They will be stuck with him. It's a huge win for Trump, IMO. With virtually zero chance of proving innocence, Trump's only chance of avoiding prosecution is to win the election so he can pardon himself. This has been the focus of defense team's strategy....and as such, they've been pushing to delay proceedings every step of the way; Judge Cannon's ruling gets them ten months closer to their goal. Can they drag things out to make the hearings last 6+ months? Entirely possible....especially considering Judge Cannon's history of being overly deferential to the defense's wishes. But even if they can't drag it out and end up losing...the defense can easily keep the case tied up in appeals until after the election. A late May start date effectively guarantees that Trump will get his wish: instead of his guilt or innocence being determined in a court of law, it will be left up to voters to decide whether Trump is held accountable for his actions or if he'll be allowed to give himself a free pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 Regardless of the date of the trial it was always going to be appealed. The man has already been convicted of sexual assault and his support with Republicans has increased after that verdict. He was never going to jail before the election. It was always going to come down to the voters. I'm hoping Trump wins the primary. He can go to jail after his humiliating defeat and then maybe the Republicans can do with him what they did to Bush. Justafan, and tgo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 It would be lovely to watch Trump go to jail but I don't think it happens. I think he has a better chance of winning reelection than actually serving a day behind bars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemEngr79 Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 MadMax, Starkiller, and tgo 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 13 hours ago, nine said: It's a huge win for Trump, IMO. With virtually zero chance of proving innocence, Trump's only chance of avoiding prosecution is to win the election so he can pardon himself. This has been the focus of defense team's strategy....and as such, they've been pushing to delay proceedings every step of the way; Judge Cannon's ruling gets them ten months closer to their goal. Can they drag things out to make the hearings last 6+ months? Entirely possible....especially considering Judge Cannon's history of being overly deferential to the defense's wishes. But even if they can't drag it out and end up losing...the defense can easily keep the case tied up in appeals until after the election. A late May start date effectively guarantees that Trump will get his wish: instead of his guilt or innocence being determined in a court of law, it will be left up to voters to decide whether Trump is held accountable for his actions or if he'll be allowed to give himself a free pass. Come March or April, Trumps lawyers will be slow boating things so much that they'll ask for another delay... then another... then they'll try to push it until after the election. I'm not too worried about it bc there are other indictments coming that won't go through that judge. MadMax, Starkiller, and begooode 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Justafan said: It would be lovely to watch Trump go to jail but I don't think it happens. I think he has a better chance of winning reelection than actually serving a day behind bars. He has to and Jack Smith knows this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, reo said: I'm not too worried about it bc there are other indictments coming that won't go through that judge. Ding ding ding! reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Justafan said: It would be lovely to watch Trump go to jail but I don't think it happens. I think he has a better chance of winning reelection than actually serving a day behind bars. At this point it's a very real possibility, he does some kind of time. He has little chance of winning the election IsntLifeFunny, Starkiller, and reo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) A superceding indictment was just issued in the MAL case with a new defendant and 3 additional charges against Trump. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.85.0_2.pdf Edited July 27, 2023 by ctm IsntLifeFunny, MadMax, OILERMAN, and 1 other 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reo Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 He reads the indictment pretty much word for word then they talk about it. MadMax, and Starkiller 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 I just don’t get this political witch hunt of Trump. Clearly deleting video surveillance footage is a sign of innocence… MadMax, pat, and reo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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