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QB Tiers - Mike Sando


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I think this dude pretty much nailed it

 

“I haven’t changed on Tannehill at all,” this coach said. “He is doing exactly what he does. He is the AFC version of Kirk Cousins. The last two years he has been very successful, very efficient. If you replaced Tannehill with Matt Ryan, would you be as successful? I believe you would. If you replaced him with Kirk Cousins, would you be the same? I think you’d be the same because those are all good quarterbacks. Now, if you replaced him with some of these Tier 3 guys, would they be as good? I don’t think so.”

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I'm fine with Tier 3, though I think Matt Ryan and Derek Carr belong in that Tier as well. I do think it's ridiculous to have Tannehill behind Jimmy G. Jimmy G was in the most gimmicky offense in the league and still turned the ball over every single game. I'd argue Tannehill is above Kirk Cousins as well and I don't think it's particularly close. 

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1 hour ago, oldschool said:

Every year Iaugh at this list, same this year. Tannehill is clearly in tier 2. Move on nothing to see here.

You are clearly blinded by your love of Tannehill. The guy can't carry an NFL offense without a top notch running game. 

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3 hours ago, Mythos27 said:

I'd rank him higher than That but the blurb about him was dead on. He's got more potential than we've seen but too many times we've turned to him to win us playoff a games and he couldn't do it. Whatever excuse you want to give for it, he couldn't do it and at that level it's about results. The voter who cited the KC game as an example gets it. 

 

It's hard to argue otherwise. For all the bad offensive gameplans in the playoffs and Vrabel's hubris, Tannehill absolutely has to be better than serviceable and can't ever play like hw did against the Bengals again. The playoff criticism is fair. The regular season criticism and attributing his success to Henry is not.

 

I will say I'm concerned Tannehill peaked in 2020 and it's very possible he never obtains that level of play again. This is a big season for him.

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1 hour ago, Thrill said:

I'm fine with Tier 3, though I think Matt Ryan and Derek Carr belong in that Tier as well. I do think it's ridiculous to have Tannehill behind Jimmy G. Jimmy G was in the most gimmicky offense in the league and still turned the ball over every single game. I'd argue Tannehill is above Kirk Cousins as well and I don't think it's particularly close. 

Why though? Carr had a better playoff game sure. But Tannehill had far better playoff performances in previous years and was the sole reason why were the #1 seed last year. Like the argument that Tannehill needs good pieces to push the team forward is silly when he was throwing to practice squad guys last year. Kirk Cousins was throwing to the best WR in the league possibly and Carr had much better options that Tannehill did for the majority of the year. I'm not even arguing that Tannehill is a top 10 guy just that I think Sando, who was down on him last year has swung way too far. 

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I'll put Lamar Jackson a little higher, and I think everyone is racing to rank Burrow as elite. I think we ought to slow down until after this year. But overall I can't really nitpick this list. It's pretty good.

 

And the analysis on Tannehill is accurate. He's not going to necessarily be the reason the team wins week in and week out. And you can't go to him before a game and without a doubt say you need an All Pro performance today and know he'll deliver. Elite QBs you can.

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I think Hurts, Mills, Lance, Lawrence, and Fields all raise their level of play this year. I actually think we've hit the plateau on Tannehill. The talk about him having upside is a little past due. He's shown what he is.

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I also think Stafford has become overrated as well. But that's what winning a SB does for you. It makes a "tier 2" QB get popular rated an elite or tier 1 guy. Stafford didn't necessarily really raise his level of play last year. He just had a incredible cast around him

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53 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

It's hard to argue otherwise. For all the bad offensive gameplans in the playoffs and Vrabel's hubris, Tannehill absolutely has to be better than serviceable and can't ever play like hw did against the Bengals again. The playoff criticism is fair. The regular season criticism and attributing his success to Henry is not.

 

I will say I'm concerned Tannehill peaked in 2020 and it's very possible he never obtains that level of play again. This is a big season for him.

Oh yeah. The Henry shit is always stupid. Goes without saying.

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QB rankings are always interesting.

 

Mahomes had a down year last year, and a poor second half of the Championship game.  Rodgers never has good championship games.

 

It puts into perspective how amazing that Brady is.

 

I would have Burrow higher.  

 

Mahomes at #2 seems high given his year last year.  I would have Brady, Rodgers, Burrow, Herbert, Mahomes as the top tier and in that order.

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