IsntLifeFunny Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 9 minutes ago, ctm said: He'll care very quickly if oil prices spike and stay elevated for an extended period of time. That would send our economy into recession. There's no off ramp this time around from what I can see. Anyone who rises to replace Khameeni will do so with him as a martyr. That's the starting point. They've already set a 40 day window of national mourning. No leader taking on that role will have cover to negotiate with the Americans to deescalate. He would immediately lose credibility. The other 5% chance is complete destabilization with a Democracy forming, but 5% is being very kind. Any chance for that was squandered by not including our allies and having any type of succession plan. All of that to say, I don't see any way oil prices don't spike. Iran cannot allow the Straights to reopen without something for both the hardliners and the US. It's untenable. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see how anyone can negotiate with the US at this point, especially not with them as the lead. It's a very interesting situation. No one knows how this plays out, because it's unprecedented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 On 2/28/2026 at 2:22 AM, OILERMAN said: Trump dodger who ran on "no new wars" now says American lives will be lost in a middle eastern war.... Of course he lied. He lied about everything. Oh and Recent, unverified reports based on released Jeffrey Epstein-related files have included claims from a confidential source alleging that Donald Trump has been "compromised by Israel". Isn't a given that Israel and Russia both have the info more or less (very potentially more) in the Epstein files? Is it really even in question? If not, they could probably just download it from Telegram, Signal, Pete Hegseth's IG page, etc. We crossed from the world of wild conspiracies to Occam's Razor obvious pathways. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 13 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: There's no off ramp this time around from what I can see. Anyone who rises to replace Khameeni will do so with him as a martyr. That's the starting point. They've already set a 40 day window of national mourning. No leader taking on that role will have cover to negotiate with the Americans to deescalate. He would immediately lose credibility. The other 5% chance is complete destabilization with a Democracy forming, but 5% is being very kind. Any chance for that was squandered by not including our allies and having any type of succession plan. All of that to say, I don't see any way oil prices don't spike. Iran cannot allow the Straights to reopen without something for both the hardliners and the US. It's untenable. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see how anyone can negotiate with the US at this point, especially not with them as the lead. It's a very interesting situation. No one knows how this plays out, because it's unprecedented. Iran's best strategy is a long war of attrition where the Strait is virtually closed. They don't have to completely lock it down 100%. All they have to do is enough ship attacks where it is too risky to travel and tanker companies choose not to and take that risk. Economic warfare via high oil prices is their best strategy. And yes, no one knows how this plays out. War is unpredicable and you can bet the US military told Trump this before he started it. IsntLifeFunny, and Starkiller 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 10 minutes ago, ctm said: Iran's best strategy is a long war of attrition where the Strait is virtually closed. They don't have to completely lock it down 100%. All they have to do is enough ship attacks where it is too risky to travel and tanker companies choose not to and take that risk. Economic warfare via high oil prices is their best strategy. And yes, no one knows how this plays out. War is unpredicable and you can bet the US military told Trump this before he started it. Look at Ukraine’s strategy: hit Russia where it hurts economically. Iran can’t hit America directly, aside from our ships and bases in the gulf, but they can certainly impact the global economy. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 We ain't hearing about this part over in the good ole US. We had a peace deal on the table with verification in place just 3 days ago. It was right within reach. We chose war. "A peace deal is within our reach … if we just allow diplomacy the space it needs to get there,” Al Busaidi said in an interview with CBS News in Washington, DC, after Oman brokered the third round of indirect talks between the US and Iran in Geneva on Thursday. “If the ultimate objective is to ensure forever that Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb, I think we have cracked that problem through these negotiations by agreeing [on] a very important breakthrough that has never been achieved any time before,” Al Busaidi said. “The single most important achievement, I believe, is the agreement that Iran will never ever have nuclear material that will create a bomb,” he said. “Now we are talking about zero stockpiling, and that is very, very important because if you cannot stockpile material that is enriched, then there is no way that you can actually create a bomb,” he added. There would also be “full and comprehensive verification by the IAEA [International Atomic Energy Agency]”, he said, referring to the UN’s nuclear watchdog. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/28/peace-within-reach-as-iran-agrees-no-nuclear-material-stockpile-oman-fm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 9 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Look at Ukraine’s strategy: hit Russia where it hurts economically. Iran can’t hit America directly, aside from our ships and bases in the gulf, but they can certainly impact the global economy. And when gas prices rise here at the pump, he’ll get blamed . That’s on top of his failed tariff gambit . There was no upside in attacking Iran politically. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IsntLifeFunny Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 We at war yet? Just checking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strunk'sDessert Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 (edited) 3 hours ago, Little Earl said: Dipshit, why would they be preemptively planning that? Could it be that Twat-in-Chief told them for 2 straight weeks he was weighing an attack? Edited March 1 by Strunk'sDessert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyitsmeallen Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 Here is an Interactive map for anyone interested. You can click the icons and it will bring up the video or other supporting evidence of what happened. https://iran.liveuamap.com/en/2026/1-march-14-4-b2-bombers-flew-round-trip-from-the-us-dropped Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ctm Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said: We at war yet? Just checking. Seems like I read somewhere in this thread that it wasn't war.....just a surgical strike. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 40 minutes ago, heyitsmeallen said: Republicans are consistent at least… Callidus, and heyitsmeallen 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 5 hours ago, ctm said: Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said it struck the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier with four ballistic missiles, the force announced in its seventh operational communiqué on March 1, ILNA reported, citing Sepah News. 'The powerful strikes by the armed forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran against the exhausted military body of the enemy have entered a new phase, and land and sea will become an ever greater graveyard for terrorist aggressors,' the IRGC statement said. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-s-irgc-claims-ballistic-missile-attack-on-uss-abraham-lincoln-aircraft-carrier/ar-AA1Xj6dO?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=69a45471c2cf4c109a45fceab54b4bc0&ei=54 Between trump's rambling and the cartoon henchmen iran has writing for them the public relations side of this thing is embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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