Iran: To Strait or Not To Strait?

[reo]

4 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

Here is only a partial record of the Iranian regime’s blood-soaked war on Americans:
• November 1979: Iranian students, backed by the regime, seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran — taking 66 Americans hostage in a 444-day standoff.
• April 1983: The Islamic Jihad, an Iran-backed terrorist group, carried out a suicide car bombing at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 17 Americans.
• October 1983: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed 241 U.S. military personnel — including 220 U.S. Marines and 21 other service personnel — in a truck bombing at a Marine compound in Beirut.
• March 1984: Iran-backed Islamic Jihad terrorists kidnapped CIA station chief William Buckley on his way to work in Beirut, ultimately killing him the following year.
• September 1984: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed 23 innocent people — including two American service members — in a car bomb attack at the U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut.
• December 1984: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists hijacked Kuwait Airways Flight 221 en route to Pakistan, diverting it to Tehran — where they brutally tortured and killed two American officials.
• June 1985: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists hijacked TWA Flight 847 on its way from Athens to Rome, torturing a U.S. Navy diver before shooting him point blank in the head and tossing his body onto the Beirut airport tarmac.
• July 1989: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed U.S. Marine Col. William Higgins after kidnapping him the previous year while serving with a United Nations peacekeeping force in Lebanon.
• April 1995: Iran-backed Islamic Jihad terrorists killed eight people — including one American citizen — in a car bomb attack in the Gaza Strip.
• August 1995: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber blew up a bus in Jerusalem, killing an American and three other passengers, and wounding more than 100 others.
• February 1996: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber blew up another bus in Jerusalem, killing three Americans and wounding three other Americans.
• March 1996: A suicide bomber linked to the Iran-backed Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorist groups killed 20 people — including two Americans — in a suicide bombing at a Tel Aviv shopping center.
• May 1996: Iran-backed terrorists killed an American-Israeli dual citizen and wounded another American citizen in the West Bank.
• June 1996: Iran-backed Hezbollah Al-Hijaz terrorists killed 19 U.S. Airmen and wounded nearly 500 others in a truck bombing at a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia.
• September 1997: Iran-backed Hamas suicide bombers blew themselves up at a shopping mall in Jerusalem, killing an American-Israeli dual citizen and wounding seven other American citizens.
• August 1998: Al-Qaeda suicide bombers, facilitated by Iran-backed Hezbollah, simultaneously bombed U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 people — including a dozen American citizens.
• August 2001: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist blew up a Jerusalem pizzeria, killing three Americans.
• January 2002: An Iran-backed al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade terrorist killed an American-Israeli dual citizen in the West Bank.
• July 2002: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist killed five Americans in a bombing at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
• June 2003: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber killed 17 people — including an American citizen — on a bus in Jerusalem.
• October 2003: Iran-backed Popular Resistance Committees terrorists killed three U.S. diplomatic personnel in a bombing in Gaza.
• Between 2003 and 2011: Iran-backed militias killed at least 603 U.S. troops in Iraq — “roughly one in every six American combat fatalities in Iraq.”
• August 2003: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist blew up a bus in Jerusalem, killing five Americans and wounding one other American.
• August 2006: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed American citizen and Israel Defense Forces (IDF) soldier Michael Levin during the Second Lebanon War — the only American to die in the conflict.
• January 2007: A dozen men affiliated with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Quds Force killed five U.S. soldiers and wounded three others in Karbala, Iraq, after disguising themselves as U.S. soldiers and entering the Provincial Joint Coordination Center.
• March 2007: Former FBI Agent Robert Levinson disappeared in Iran, likely dying in an Iranian prison.
• July 2014: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed two American citizens serving in the IDF.
• October 2015: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed an American citizen and his wife in a drive-by shooting in the West Bank.
• December 2019: Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah terrorists killed an American civilian contractor and wounded several U.S. service members in a rocket attack at K1 Air Base in Kirkuk, Iraq.
• January 2020: 109 U.S. troops suffered traumatic brain injuries in an Iranian ballistic missile attack on the Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq.
• September 2020: U.S. intelligence indicated the Iranian regime was considering a plot to assassinate the U.S. Ambassador to South Africa.
• February 2021: An Iran-backed militia fired a rocket at coalition forces in Erbil, Iraq, wounding a U.S. service member and four U.S. civilian contractors.
• July 2021: Iranian-backed militias wounded two U.S. service members in a series of rocket and drone attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq and Syria.
• September 2022: An Iranian rocket attack killed an American citizen in Iraqi Kurdistan.
• November 2022: An IRGC captain orchestrated the killing of an American citizen in Baghdad.
• March 2023: An Iranian drone attack killed an American contractor and wounded five U.S. service members and another contractor in a strike on a coalition base in Syria.
• October 2023: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed 46 Americans and kidnapped at least 12 Americans in the October 7th massacre.
• December 2023: Iran-backed militias wounded three U.S. service members in an attack on Erbil Air Base in Iraq.
• January 2024: Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah terrorists killed three U.S. service members and wounded more than 40 other service members in a drone attack against the Tower 22 military base in Jordan.
• Between October 2023 and November 2024: Iran and its proxies conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounding more than 180 U.S. service members and killing three service members.
• November 2024: An Iranian national and IRGC asset was charged for plotting to assassinate President Trump.
• June 2025: Iran-backed militias attacked at least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq.

 

 

Are you trying to convince yourself that you're ok w/ Trump starting this war or someone else? No one is arguing the Iranian regime was good.

[LongTimeFan]

Just now, reo said:

 

 

Are you trying to convince yourself that you're ok w/ Trump starting this war or someone else? No one is arguing the Iranian regime was good.

Im not a war guy but if this "war" eliminates the top sponsor of terrorism throughout the world, do it. 

I guess you're ok with that or even better that the regime just killed 30,000 of its own people?

[reo]

1 minute ago, LongTimeFan said:

Im not a war guy but if this "war" eliminates the top sponsor of terrorism throughout the world, do it. 

I guess you're ok with that or even better that the regime just killed 30,000 of its own people?

 

lol you guys always give up your morals and ethics to support Trump. 

[LongTimeFan]

19 minutes ago, reo said:

 

lol you guys always give up your morals and ethics to support Trump. 

I would support any leader who would do it.

 

I noticed you didn't have the balls to answer my question. Typical liberal idiot. Better to give them pallets of cash, eh?

Edited March 3 by LongTimeFan

[OzTitan]

boy I guess MAGA must have been pro-Iran then when it said no new wars as a centerpiece of its election platform?

 

retard

[nine]

So what’s the end game?   Iran will likely be plunged into socioeconomic chaos and infighting….which Iran media  and other Muslim nations will blame squarely on the US and Israel.  
 

The Khameni regime will eventually be replaced by another similarly anti-US regime with equally fervent messaging and support for anti-American and anti-Israel terrorist groups….which will likely proliferate in the aftermath of the current offensive.  
 

And the cycle starts all over again,  

 

So do we just put Iran on a regular  bombing rotation and wipe out their government every 12-18 months until they come up with one more to our liking?  
 

I tend to take a separatist view of the Middle East.  That entire region of the world has been a cliusterfuck of various ethnic, religious and tribal warfare since the dawn of time…and America’s attempts at intervention have only made matters worse.  
 

At no point in recorded history has the Middle East ever known peace for any meaningful period;  war, conflict, and terror are simply facts of life.  The less governmental involvement and entanglement we have with that region, the better off we are as a nation.  
 

But instead, Trump decided to once again throw fuel on the fire, thus ensuring the region’s hatred of American imperialism will remain alive and well and stronger than ever,  

[reo]

16 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

I would support any leader who would do it.

 

I noticed you didn't have the balls to answer my question. Typical liberal idiot. Better to give them pallets of cash, eh?

 

Watching you rationalize being pro war is entertaining.

[LongTimeFan]

3 minutes ago, nine said:

So what’s the end game?   Iran will likely be plunged into socioeconomic chaos and infighting….which Iran media  and other Muslim nations will blame squarely on the US and Israel.  
 

The Khameni regime will eventually be replaced by another similarly anti-US regime with equally fervent messaging and support for anti-American and anti-Israel terrorist groups….which will likely proliferate in the aftermath of the current offensive.  
 

And the cycle starts all over again,  

 

So do we just put Iran on a regular  bombing rotation and wipe out their government every 12-18 months until they come up with one more to our liking?  
 

I tend to take a separatist view of the Middle East.  That entire region of the world has been a cliusterfuck of various ethnic, religious and tribal warfare since the dawn of time…and America’s attempts at intervention have only made matters worse.  
 

At no point in recorded history has the Middle East ever known peace;  war, conflict, and terror are simply a fact of life.  The less governmental influence and involvement we have with that region, the better off we are as a nation.  
 

But instead, Trump decided to once again throw fuel on the fire, thus ensuring the region’s hatred of American imperialism will remain alive and well and stronger than ever,  

So you're in the just leave it be column. You're ok with state sponsored terrorism. 

 

Every Iranian I see/know has praised Trump. Have you noticed Iran now just throwing missiles everywhere? Most neutral Middle East countries are behind the US and Isreal destroying that regime.

[LongTimeFan]

7 minutes ago, reo said:

 

Watching you rationalize being pro war is entertaining.

Pussy. This is why I rarely interact with you. Can't answer simple questions because it will show your shitty values and lack of critical thinking. 

 

Good talk. 

[IsntLifeFunny]

This does absolutely nothing to stop the terrorist network Iran has created. Nothing. If anything it destabilizes, fractures it, and makes it much more dangerous. 

 

Sorry, idiots, it doesn't just work like good guys take out the bad guys, and the good guys are gonna win! 

 

Infant level understanding of how the world operates. 

[ctm]

This isn't a war, just a surgical strike.

[Callidus]

54 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

So you're in the just leave it be column. You're ok with state sponsored terrorism. 

 

Every Iranian I see/know has praised Trump. Have you noticed Iran now just throwing missiles everywhere? Most neutral Middle East countries are behind the US and Isreal destroying that regime.

Its amazing that every maga stooge has this huge circle of iranian friends. 

[IsntLifeFunny]

Iran has built an entire defensive apparatus over 45 years waiting for what happened on Saturday. They have terror cells all over the world as well as a massive infrastructure of paramilitary groups in 7 countries. Those don't evaporate by cutting off the head.

 

That's what bothers me so much about Trumpers. Okay, we get it, Iran, nukes, evil, terror!! Okay, so you killed their leadership. Alright got it. So, any plans about what to do afterwards or the cascading effects? No? Then stfu and stop speaking about it. 

 

[IsntLifeFunny]

[nine]

5 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

So you're in the just leave it be column. You're ok with state sponsored terrorism. 

 

Every Iranian I see/know has praised Trump. Have you noticed Iran now just throwing missiles everywhere? Most neutral Middle East countries are behind the US and Isreal destroying that regime.

 

So you're good with another drawn-out Afghanistan situation?

 

If the United States has a plan to help support Iran through their post-Khameni transition and improve the quality of life for the Iranian people... hey, great;   let's hear it.

 

But of course, Trump and Hegseth have already admitted no such plan exists.   Their plan was to put on a great big show of force to punish the Khameni regime and take them out....and that's about it.   That's the extent of their plans.    They've admitted they don't have any sort of timeline or exit plan in mind;  they'll just keep bombing and blowing shit up until Trump gets bored and decides to stop.   

 

Or maybe Trump decides boots on the ground would be a bigger and more impressive show of force... rolling into Tehran with troops, tanks and heavy armor.    Of course, this approach would dramatically increase the casualties and loss of life for Americans and Iranians alike....but on the other hand it would make for much better TV and better ratings.     And Trump LOVES a good show......it's quite the quandary for him.

 

It's incredible to me that we're talking about a sitting POTUS who bypassed Congress to wage war on another country....and he thinks it's a friggin' video game.   Like he can just play until he either wins or he gets bored and leaves...... leaving the Iranian people to twist in the wind and figure things out on their own.

 

I also think Trump seriously expected Iranians everywhere to suddenly break into song and dance after Khameni's death.   I imagine he envisioned a scene like the Wizard of Oz with the munchkins all dancing around and rejoicing once they learned the wicked witch was dead.

 

I'm sure that's probably what he pictured happening....and he can't for the life of him figure out why it didn't work out that way.