TITANS Best Player *DECIDING VOTE CAST*

[OILERMAN]

Cousins is flat out balling this season 

[AJClown]

Cousins and Tannehill are pretty much same QBs if anything, you could argue Cousins is better.

[AJClown]

6 hours ago, Mythos27 said:

I think Tannehill is better too but I'm wondering what the cut off point is in QB quality before Henry appreciably declines in dominance. I'm not sure that the gap between Tannehill and Cousins is large enough to seriously reduce Henry's effectiveness.

 

When Cook is healthy he almost rivals Henry despite not having an the physical gifts. We see Chubb dominate in Cleveland with Baker and the are a bunch of similar examples. I'm thinking you might have to get down to like Sam Darnold/ Jimmy G levels before we'd see Henry start to resemble his old self some. No facts here, just spit-balling.

 

No one in the game is impacting the team in terms wins and losses like Henry is. He is taking the soul out of defenses. Sure, Cook, McCaffry are very good but they do not impact their teams like Henry is doing right now. When teams are linning up against us they are making business decisions guarding Henry.  He is probably the most feared offensive player in the league right now, he is slowly taking the will out of other teams defenses

[OILERMAN]

I listened to a podcast and they were talking about whether Henry was the best RB in the last 20-25 years. The argument against was on a play by play basis Henry has too many negative EV runs. I personally don't think you can hold that against him, he's been run into stacked boxes so often. But I also think the blocking doesn't get enough credit when he does well. 

[Mythos27]

1 hour ago, unauthorizedcinnamon said:

Cousins and Tannehill are pretty much same QBs if anything, you could argue Cousins is better.

Cousins has been definitively better this season. I appreciate what Tanny does for us but it's tough to argue he's produced up to his own standards this season. I think he gets going soon though. 

[OILERMAN]

Tannehill has been way better than his numbers show this season. He's had major protection issues and without the two starting WRs and Firkser for large portions of the season. He was off on some passes in the 1st half vs the Bills but was great in the 2nd half. He's also had a lot of drops, including the potential game winner vs the Jets. 

 

He's been more than fine this season

[oldschool]

1 hour ago, OILERMAN said:

I listened to a podcast and they were talking about whether Henry was the best RB in the last 20-25 years. The argument against was on a play by play basis Henry has too many negative EV runs. I personally don't think you can hold that against him, he's been run into stacked boxes so often. But I also think the blocking doesn't get enough credit when he does well. 

 

The percentage of stacked boxes he faces is mostly dictated by formation i.e condensed 12. I think there is an argument to be made Henry is the best RB since Tomlinson and he may be better. If he continues his current trajectory this year, we are talking all time company with Brown and others of that ilk.

[OILERMAN]

14 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

The percentage of stacked boxes he faces is mostly dictated by formation i.e condensed 12. I think there is an argument to be made Henry is the best RB since Tomlinson and he may be better. If he continues his current trajectory this year, we are talking all time company with Brown and others of that ilk.

 

I understand about formation, I've posted that for years. The point is Henry gets run into those boxes

 

As for LT, I personally don't think Henry can carry LT's jockstrap in regards to being as good as an overall RB. LT had 1600+ yards and a 100 receptions one season. He was a legit pass catching threat. 9 seasons with 50+ catches. 

 

The best comparison is Peterson, another 2 down RB. 

 

A lot will depend on how long Henry keeps going. Right now he has 3 1k seasons(including the 2k). If I had to bet I'd guess he'll end up like Terrell Davis or Earl Campbell with an amazing 4-5 years span but not a long overall career. But the dude is a freak and if he went longer I wouldn't be surprised. 

[LongTimeFan]

10 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

I understand about formation, I've posted that for years. The point is Henry gets run into those boxes

 

As for LT, I personally don't think Henry can carry LT's jockstrap in regards to being as good as an overall RB. LT had 1600+ yards and a 100 receptions one season. He was a legit pass catching threat. 9 seasons with 50+ catches. 

 

The best comparison is Peterson, another 2 down RB. 

 

A lot will depend on how long Henry keeps going. Right now he has 3 1k seasons(including the 2k). If I had to bet I'd guess he'll end up like Terrell Davis or Earl Campbell with an amazing 4-5 years span but not a long overall career. But the dude is a freak and if he went longer I wouldn't be surprised. 

Way to straddle that fence!

[oldschool]

12 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

I understand about formation, I've posted that for years. The point is Henry gets run into those boxes

 

As for LT, I personally don't think Henry can carry LT's jockstrap in regards to being as good as an overall RB. LT had 1600+ yards and a 100 receptions one season. He was a legit pass catching threat. 9 seasons with 50+ catches. 

 

The best comparison is Peterson, another 2 down RB. 

 

A lot will depend on how long Henry keeps going. Right now he has 3 1k seasons(including the 2k). If I had to bet I'd guess he'll end up like Terrell Davis or Earl Campbell with an amazing 4-5 years span but not a long overall career. But the dude is a freak and if he went longer I wouldn't be surprised. 

 

I know you get it. I was just taking another shot at @big2033 aka mr wishbone. Tomlinson was amazing and to me he's the best all around RB I've seen play. Faulk was awesome too. Good point about Peterson being a better comparison as a 2 down RB. I also tend to agree with you Henry will fall off a cliff at some point. the workload is just insane, I don't care how well he takes care of his body. 

[OILERMAN]

1 minute ago, oldschool said:

 I also tend to agree with you Henry will fall off a cliff at some point. the workload is just insane, I don't care how well he takes care of his body. 

 

What I wonder about is what will happen when a guy who is 6-4 250lbs just loses a tiny bit of explosion. He already needs to a good path to get going. It will probably affect him more than a normal sized RB at that size. I'd guess he won't decline and fade, he will hit a wall and just be terrible. How long that takes is a total guess. 

[tgo]

35 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

I understand about formation, I've posted that for years. The point is Henry gets run into those boxes

 

As for LT, I personally don't think Henry can carry LT's jockstrap in regards to being as good as an overall RB. LT had 1600+ yards and a 100 receptions one season. He was a legit pass catching threat. 9 seasons with 50+ catches. 

 

The best comparison is Peterson, another 2 down RB. 

 

A lot will depend on how long Henry keeps going. Right now he has 3 1k seasons(including the 2k). If I had to bet I'd guess he'll end up like Terrell Davis or Earl Campbell with an amazing 4-5 years span but not a long overall career. But the dude is a freak and if he went longer I wouldn't be surprised. 

Henry is more feared than LT or AP ever were. I say that as a big LT fan. 

[BudsOilers]

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[Supdawg]

Henry - Literally having the best span of performance (3+ years) in the history of the NFL

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Simmons - Borderline All Pro

AJB - Pro Bowl

Tanny - Pro Bowl'ish

Landry - Pro Bowl, Borderline All Pro
Kern - Pro Bowl

Julio - Pro Bowl (from name alone)
Saffold - Pro Bowl

Byard - Pro Bowl
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Rashaan Evans - 

 

 

[AJClown]

The craziest and most incredible thing to me is to see this dude accelerate and break away from DBs. Someone that big, to be moving that fast?  Doesn’t make any sense.