ctm Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Talking about "woke" is effective. People put it above policies that help them and other things. Usually the ones talking against being woke are the wokest of them all. Look how people acted when Hillary said "Deplorables" or Biden talked about Maga, those people burst into tears like bitches It might be effective in the republican primaries. Don't think it has much appeal to general election independents and swing voters. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 18 hours ago, Little Earl said: Woke, CRT, defund police, open borders are not winning political issues. Agreed. However, the midterms proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that a political campaign based upon such overblown and largely fictitious fringe issues is a guaranteed loser. MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 These guys are in a cult. They just can’t see it (which is true for most people in a cult). Everyone outside the cult is somehow evil or crazy to them. MadMax, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 Again, tell me what non fringe issues you find important? The border? Inflation and monetary policy/spending? Waging war in Ukraine? Insistence that non electric vehicles will end in 10 years? Crime and lack of aggressive DA’s? Pushing pensions to invest only in approved green companies? I dont agree with Joe on any of this. So what the fuck do you guys like about this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, El Guapo said: Again, tell me what non fringe issues you find important? The border? Inflation and monetary policy/spending? Waging war in Ukraine? Insistence that non electric vehicles will end in 10 years? Crime and lack of aggressive DA’s? Pushing pensions to invest only in approved green companies? I dont agree with Joe on any of this. So what the fuck do you guys like about this? His trade policy has been almost exactly aligned with Trump. Monetary policy isn't up to Congress or the WH. Spending...lol they raised the debt limit 3 times under Trump. In 4 years he accumulated 25% of the debt. Biden, like Obama, has decreased the deficit. MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) CTR and Trans issues are red meat bullshit topics. CTR isn't in public schools and is only taught in universities. What Republicans are talking about is not teaching history or respecting people's rights to privacy. Edited February 12, 2023 by IsntLifeFunny MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 I don’t even know of any Dems, or people who busy themselves watching The View, or people who even think like them!! Transgenders and people with bizarro pronouns are EVERYWHERE and ruining our country!! OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, El Guapo said: Again, tell me what non fringe issues you find important? The border? Inflation and monetary policy/spending? Waging war in Ukraine? Insistence that non electric vehicles will end in 10 years? Crime and lack of aggressive DA’s? Pushing pensions to invest only in approved green companies? I dont agree with Joe on any of this. So what the fuck do you guys like about this? The border has been an issue for decades. Both sides of the political spectrum are at fault to some degree and they have refused to find common ground. Not sure why it’s any bigger of an issue today than it ever was. Inflation is not on Biden. Certainly not to any significant degree. It’s actually more on Trump if you want to blame any president, and certainly on Reagan and Dubya, because massive tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy are a big factor. But either way, it’s mostly now being caused by corporate greed and supply chain issues, not government spending. I fully support Biden (and NATO) backing Ukraine. Anyone who values democracy over authoritarian dictatorship would. Not Republicans, of course, because you guys love authoritarians… Biden isn’t banning gasoline powered vehicles. The fact that you believe this shows exactly what I’m talking about in terms of you being a sucker. Biden isn’t causing more crime, nor is he promoting less aggressive DAs, so I’m not really sure what your point is here other than to bleat out right wing talking points you hear. Biden also has nothing to do with pension investments. And I’m not really sure why you oppose private entities being able to invest in whatever they want that they think will make money for pensioners. pamo9, and Come on Titans 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemEngr79 Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) On 2/11/2023 at 9:15 AM, luvyablue256 said: What does this God forsaken country WANT in a president? Basically this, and we will deserve it: Edited February 12, 2023 by ChemEngr79 Starkiller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 17 hours ago, El Guapo said: Again, tell me what non fringe issues you find important? Basic governing like the debt ceiling. Republicans want to shut it down and not govern MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: Basic governing like the debt ceiling. Republicans want to shut it down and not govern The Debt ceiling is a political tool Right wing media uses as a blunt instrument because they know most have no idea what it really is. Its not our Nations credit limit like they are led to believe. Its capping the amount of debt you pay back not how much you spend. Its like owing a credit card company $20K and arbitrarily saying you will only pay back $10K. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 2/11/2023 at 9:36 AM, MadMax said: Honest question here. What so called "woke policies" are you so anxious to give up democracy to eliminate? I admit, I'm a little unclear on the subject of "woke". It just seems like the latest GOP trigger word du jour. GOP considers anything that is not white to being woke. Look at the little troll MTG tweeting last night that Chris Stepleton performance was great, which it was, but all the other performances were “woke”, meaning non white. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 5 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Basic governing like the debt ceiling. Republicans want to shut it down and not govern Really? So de facto increase in debt ceilings every time it comes up to allow more overboard spending without any alternatives is considered governing? That's your go to core issue? Absurd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 36 minutes ago, El Guapo said: Really? So de facto increase in debt ceilings every time it comes up to allow more overboard spending without any alternatives is considered governing? That's your go to core issue? Absurd. Educate yourself..... Increasing the debt limit does not increase spending. In fact its the other way around. Congress's run away spending mostly under the GOP leads to the Debt limit needing to be raised. https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-markets-financial-institutions-and-fiscal-service/debt-limit The debt limit is the total amount of money that the United States government is authorized to borrow to meet its existing legal obligations, including Social Security and Medicare benefits, military salaries, interest on the national debt, tax refunds, and other payments. The debt limit does not authorize new spending commitments. It simply allows the government to finance existing legal obligations that Congresses and presidents of both parties have made in the past. begooode, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, El Guapo said: Really? So de facto increase in debt ceilings every time it comes up to allow more overboard spending without any alternatives is considered governing? That's your go to core issue? Absurd. "the governing" already occurred and decisions were made in the past. it is not an opportunity to unwind, relitigate those decisions. debt ceiling = the disbursement office activity NOT a policy making / funding decisions. Stop acting like this is difficult to understand, because you want to join in the cadre who want to use it as an issue when it's plainly not. Edited February 13, 2023 by begooode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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