ctm Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Little Earl said: That's quite ignorant of you ctm. It takes more faith to believe everything came about from pure lucky random chance, than created by a God. If you are thoughtful as you claim you are, you will acknowledge this. I will acknowledge that since time is infinite, anything is possible including the evolution of life forms. Belief in God requires a leap of faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, Starkiller said: If the universe couldn’t have manifested without a god, where did that god manifest from? You had to concoct the multiverse theory just to allow the possibility that the universe formed on it's own. No proof whatsoever, so a leap of faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, ctm said: I will acknowledge that since time is infinite, anything is possible including the evolution of life forms. Belief in God requires a leap of faith. Multiverse - giant leap of faith Evolution - complex advancements - giant leap of faith pat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Little Earl said: Multiverse - giant leap of faith Evolution - complex advancements - giant leap of faith I think it's okay to accept that at some point one has to make a leap of faith. I think one also should be open to new science and new ideas. God isn't done with teaching us. MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 42 minutes ago, ctm said: I will acknowledge that since time is infinite, anything is possible including the evolution of life forms. Belief in God requires a leap of faith. Belief in anything requires a leap of faith. Basically No one who believes in evolution today has done the work themselves. They believe a book written by a guy they never met. WG53 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Team Trump trying to change the topics at the eleventh hour for the next debate https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/521744-trump-campaign-demands-change-to-final-debate-topics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Little Earl said: You had to concoct the multiverse theory just to allow the possibility that the universe formed on it's own. No proof whatsoever, so a leap of faith. 5 hours ago, Little Earl said: Multiverse - giant leap of faith Evolution - complex advancements - giant leap of faith The multiverse theory is unimportant. It changes nothing about how the universe exists without a god. We have no idea if it’s true. Maybe parallel universes exist, maybe there aren’t any others. We just know that our universe exists and that the modern phase of the universe began with the Big Bang. As for evolution, we have ample evidence of that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, begooode said: Team Trump trying to change the topics at the eleventh hour for the next debate https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/521744-trump-campaign-demands-change-to-final-debate-topics Is the whiny bitch going to back out again? Edited October 19, 2020 by Starkiller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 48 minutes ago, Starkiller said: The multiverse theory is unimportant. It changes nothing about how the universe exists without a god. We have no idea if it’s true. Maybe parallel universes exist, maybe there aren’t any others. We just know that our universe exists and that the modern phase of the universe began with the Big Bang. As for evolution, we have ample evidence of that... I’ve pondered about this quite a bit. I think unknowingly he’s saying someone who believes God absolutely doesn’t exist is on his same level where they believe God absolutely does exist. It’s a strange dichotomy. You don’t know if some construct exists. Who cares if it is God or whatever it may be. The multiverse and how blackholes work lead me to believe there actually is some type of construct. It doesn’t mean I’m correct. I guess I’ve never understood why it’s such a contentious issue, one mainly pushed by evangelicals. I think it stems from their belief if you aren’t a Christian you’re going to eternal damnation. The thought process is so discombobulated as to not be discernible. Happy God versus Mad God. Savior who is here to sacrifice himself for the sins of everyone to everyone who isn’t a Christian is damned. I’ll never understand why anyone would want to be a part of that religion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I’ve pondered about this quite a bit. I think unknowingly he’s saying someone who believes God absolutely doesn’t exist is on his same level where they believe God absolutely does exist. It’s a strange dichotomy. You don’t know if some construct exists. Who cares if it is God or whatever it may be. The multiverse and how blackholes work lead me to believe there actually is some type of construct. It doesn’t mean I’m correct. I guess I’ve never understood why it’s such a contentious issue, one mainly pushed by evangelicals. I think it stems from their belief if you aren’t a Christian you’re going to eternal damnation. The thought process is so discombobulated as to not be discernible. Happy God versus Mad God. Savior who is here to sacrifice himself for the sins of everyone to everyone who isn’t a Christian is damned. I’ll never understand why anyone would want to be a part of that religion. The Dominionists want a country ruled by their own beliefs and imposed on everyone else. They don’t care about religious freedoms and dichotomy of beliefs. Personally I have no problem with people believing some god created the universe and watches over us. Just accept scientific findings and wonder at the marvel that is your god’s creation and stop denying observable truths and imposing your beliefs on everyone else... Edited October 19, 2020 by Starkiller IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 7 hours ago, Little Earl said: That's quite ignorant of you ctm. It takes more faith to believe everything came about from pure lucky random chance, than created by a God. If you are thoughtful as you claim you are, you will acknowledge this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 7 hours ago, SNAPHISANKLE said: Belief in anything requires a leap of faith. Basically No one who believes in evolution today has done the work themselves. They believe a book written by a guy they never met. Oh the irony... ChemEngr79 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 hours ago, WG53 said: Oh the irony... That’s the joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzTitan Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 Besides the obvious ridiculousness that ensues when anyone tries to legitimize the idea of religion from a scientific stance, I can't get past the question of "which one?" when it comes to the merits of religion. As in, which one do you choose? the one you were born into and were forced to learn growing up? good ol' saving-your-soul lottery is it then? chef, and wiscotitansfan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 14 hours ago, Starkiller said: The multiverse theory is unimportant. It changes nothing about how the universe exists without a god. We have no idea if it’s true. Maybe parallel universes exist, maybe there aren’t any others. We just know that our universe exists and that the modern phase of the universe began with the Big Bang. As for evolution, we have ample evidence of that... You know full well that the science has shown that the probability that our universe was created as it was to sustain life to be so low that it it's basically an impossibility. The only way around that is to come up with the multiverse theory. As I stated, a giant leap of faith. There is zero evidence that complex developments occurred through evolution. Things like eyesight, or the movement to needing two sexes to procreate. Evidence points to decay over time, not gigantic leaps of advancement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.