IsntLifeFunny Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Little Earl said: Wallace was wrong. Biden said he was for reallocating police funding. Trump did not lie. How was he wrong? He corrected Trump who said Biden wanted to defund police. That obviously was false. tgo, and reo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted July 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 hours ago, tgo said: Yeah, he's called for things like redirecting it to more training and on-hand psychologists for police, and less military equipment. And he's called for conditioning *federal* police aid on whether departments meet certain ethical standards and meet a "decency and honor" threshold as he called it. As in, whether they're hiring officers that unnecessarily kill and mame people. Some are not looking for intelligent answers like yours. They look for slogans, MAGA. Ask them what MAGA means? Reopen factories. New airports. Rebuild bridges. Better health insurance @cheaper cost. Wall paid for by Mexico. Meanwhile, pub businessmen are hiring all the cheap illegal workers they can get. tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemEngr79 Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 hours ago, tgo said: So does he get fired on this Friday night or next Friday night? pat, Starkiller, SpLeEnBeAnS, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, ChemEngr79 said: So does he get fired on this Friday night or next Friday night? Trump will just classify the information like he did w/ other IG reports. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) https://www.wbur.org/cognoscenti/2020/07/23/trump-federal-police-portland-laurence-tribe?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&fbclid=IwAR2pPzN_jbJM6f6Tie8Okg5K4UebkZRVJ9BXTY4nTkgrVjOqSGkRBFfQrwg I wouldn't normally quote a whole article but.. Quote ‘A Profoundly Un-American Attack On Civil Society’: Why Trump’s Paramilitary Force Is Unconstitutional We are being confronted in city after city with a nationwide paramilitary force, its troops unidentifiable and its vehicles unmarked, directed in deliberately vague terms to protect property and preserve domestic order. It began in Portland, Oregon where chilling video shows men in combat gear seizing unarmed protestors, packing them into rented minivans and driving off. Some victims of these kidnappings remain in the dark about their abductors even after being freed. In one dystopian scene, a Portland man was seized, blindfolded, transported, imprisoned and finally released — without once being told who had abducted him and why. Widespread criticism of these secretive police has not cowed the president. Instead, egged on by his lackeys, Trump plans to expand this paramilitary force. He has mobilized 2,000 agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Customs and Border Protection (CBP), and the Coast Guard, placing them on standby to quickly deploy domestically. If Trump’s words are to be believed, these troops are staring down the barrel at Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia and more. This astonishing federal takeover of public streets and spaces previously devoted to peaceful protest has targeted jurisdictions and individuals selected specifically (and at times admittedly) for their dissent from the policies of the incumbent national regime. Portland has seen 54 consecutive days of protests -- the vast majority peaceful — in the wake of the killing of George Floyd. Chicago, Trump’s next target, has seen similar dissatisfaction. Boston, a city with Democratic leadership that proudly proclaims “Black Lives Matter,” could be next on the list. If the militia descends on Boston, our city’s leaders can and should arrest and prosecute anyone who unlawfully assaults and kidnaps civilians. The district attorney of Philadelphia has already promised as much. The administration has also trained its cyberweapons on American citizens. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) recently directed its analysts to collect the information — including scrubbing the social media accounts — of anyone who they believe might deface a statue or monument. If you have (or would) protest alongside someone holding a can of spray paint, analysts trained to identify terrorists might be combing through your Facebook. Deployment of this clandestine force, answerable only to the president, is manifestly unconstitutional. Our Constitution protects the rights of the accused. Trump’s forces are arresting peaceful protestors without warrants or probable cause, in some instances spiriting them away to places unknown. Our First Amendment guarantees the rights of free speech, petition and assembly. Trump’s forces are arresting and beating his political critics. Our federalist system prohibits the federal government from policing the streets where, as here, state and local authorities are equipped to preserve domestic tranquility and have not been demonstrably overwhelmed. Trump’s forces are usurping state prerogatives. Such a presidential police force would surely have been unthinkable to those who fought a bloody revolution and founded a republic to preserve the “blessings of liberty” under a federal system of separated and divided powers. It would have been utterly unimaginable to those who gave “their last full measure of devotion” to preserve the Union. And it would have been the worst nightmare of those who sacrificed their lives in World War II to keep authoritarian regimes from our shores. This is not mere disregard for the rule of law — this is outright disdain. And the naked cynicism of those disguising these dictatorial moves in the facially anodyne garb of essential peacekeeping — a move that, sadly, might well succeed for a time in holding sufficiently wide-ranging judicial relief at bay — is especially disgusting. Judges worthy of the independence and life tenure entrusted to them will hopefully enjoin the worst excesses of this profoundly un-American attack on civil society. Politicians worthy of leading a republic will hopefully denounce and dismantle this anti-democratic militia. But the long shadow of fear cast by the Trump administration’s programmatic assault on our freedoms will remain until — “from sea to shining sea” — that entire administration is ripped root and branch from our native land. Please click the link anyway so the author gets views. Edited July 24, 2020 by reo Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downtown Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 11:33 AM, LongTimeFan said: So if someone throws a brick at the federal agents from one foot past the building limits, that is fine? Why are people even rioting against a building? Its coming out that these "FEDS" might actually be Blackwater Mercs. They also recently targeted medical supplies which is a war crime and protected under the Geneva Convention. But please, defend them more! pat, OILERMAN, ChemEngr79, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 They will be for it because it’s good for Republicans politically, just like Voter ID laws. It’s about shaping the electorate, not principles. No ones actually cares about spray paint on a building this much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemEngr79 Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 33 minutes ago, Titans279 said: They will be for it because it’s good for Republicans politically, just like Voter ID laws. It’s about shaping the electorate, not principles. No ones actually cares about spray paint on a building this much. Last time the GOP tried these tactics they had a court order preventing it for almost 40 years...Maybe they dig a deeper hole this time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8604159/Portlands-mayor-slams-protesters-setting-fire-police-precinct.html more peaceful protests. You guys are full of Shit . Own these bastards... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, El Guapo said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8604159/Portlands-mayor-slams-protesters-setting-fire-police-precinct.html more peaceful protests. You guys are full of Shit . Own these bastards... No one here has supported anyone setting fires to buildings... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Not supported but insisted they were peaceful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, El Guapo said: Not supported but insisted they were peaceful Overwhelmingly they are. So arrest the vandals, don’t assault peaceful protesters... Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted December 6, 2020 Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/12/trump-barr-congress-federal-agencies-policing-protests-identification/ Congress is set to approve a defense policy bill that bars unidentified federal law enforcement officers from policing protests. The bill responds to a phenomenon that Mother Jones flagged in June: Unidentified federal law enforcement officers with no identifying insignia joined in the Trump administration’s coordinated crackdown on protests against police violence in several cities earlier this summer. The 4,500-page annual defense policy bill that emerged from a House-Senate policy committee Thursday requires any armed forces personnel, including National Guard members, and federal law enforcement agents who respond to a “civil disturbance”, to display either their name or some other “individual identifier”, as well as the organization or branch of the Armed Forces for whom they work. Come on Titans, and OILERMAN 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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