tgo Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 Starkiller, and ChemEngr79 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClown Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Number9 said: First, let me say this is a safe space and Republican posters can speak freely in this thread. I have held Republican Views ONLY threads in the past and there we no attacks against their ideas and opinions. We learn nothing by arguing and not listening. I myself am guilty of ignoring some posters, but I am emptying my ignore list. You may speak freely. What is you opinion of the president sending in Federal agents to arrest protester against the wishes of the Mayor of Portland(D) and the Governor of Oregon(D). Do you think he should send Federal agents to Chicago. Again, this is a safe space. Trump got the idea from Putin who regularly murders protesters and the journalists that cover them. Do we even know what happened to those arrested who Trump has called "anarchists"? The Republicans response reminds me of this... First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Number9 said: Thank you for sharing, BUT this thread is for right leaning posters. No verbal attacks. No put downs. It's a safe zone. I think we all realize this is a different time in our nation. Whatever we have done, mistakes, great things, no matter-we are united when we feel threatened from outside, side by side. No offense. And I will not comment since you want this to be a "safe place" for right wing posters. But come on. You have to able to accept both sides of a discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeFan Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Number9 said: Are you concerned at all that a different president with left leaning politics could do the same thing? No, why would i be concerned that either party decides to protect our federal buildings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 it's obvious neither the media or the Democrats want the president to put down these violent riots in Portland, Chicago, and elsewhere. They just trash federal law enforcement, accuse them of kidnapping, etc., claim the president is politicizing the riots, and on and on. I can assure you that if the Tea Party had been rioting every night, defacing government property, beating police and citizens, shutting down city blocks and streets, and been talking about overthrowing the government, there would be a very different reaction from these hypocrites and frauds. LongTimeFan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, Little Earl said: it's obvious neither the media or the Democrats want the president to put down these violent riots in Portland, Chicago, and elsewhere. They just trash federal law enforcement, accuse them of kidnapping, etc., claim the president is politicizing the riots, and on and on. I can assure you that if the Tea Party had been rioting every night, defacing government property, beating police and citizens, shutting down city blocks and streets, and been talking about overthrowing the government, there would be a very different reaction from these hypocrites and frauds. I can also guarantee you if Trump wasn’t posting white supremacist videos on Twitter that the cities would be a lot better off. Omar, and pat 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 51 minutes ago, Callidus said: No offense. And I will not comment since you want this to be a "safe place" for right wing posters. But come on. You have to able to accept both sides of a discussion. They never really participated, so anyone can join in. It's a huge event historically and I really wanted to see some honest opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Number9 said: They never really participated, so anyone can join in. It's a huge event historically and I really wanted to see some honest opinions. I want to tear into them as well. But I am trying to be respectful. Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WG53 Posted July 21, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 Lol violent riots in Portland. OILERMAN, Omar, No1TitansFan, and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tgo Posted July 22, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 When Chertoff and Ridge are telling you that you're being a fascist, you're probably being a fucking fascist. CreepingDeath, Starkiller, Number9, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tgo Posted July 22, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 22 hours ago, Little Earl said: it's obvious neither the media or the Democrats want the president to put down these violent riots in Portland, Chicago, and elsewhere. They just trash federal law enforcement, accuse them of kidnapping, etc., claim the president is politicizing the riots, and on and on. I can assure you that if the Tea Party had been rioting every night, defacing government property, beating police and citizens, shutting down city blocks and streets, and been talking about overthrowing the government, there would be a very different reaction from these hypocrites and frauds. The reaction would be that local enforcement and national guard presence be there to preserve peace and protect property. Not jackbooted fascist secret police thugs with unmarked paramilitary uniforms whisking away people into unmarked rented vehicles. This is the exact kind of tactics that were used by Nazis, by the KGB / Gustapo, and has been used by authoritarian regimes in Saudi Arabia and Iran, and most recently by Putin in his invasions of Crimea and the Chinese in their crackdown in Hong Kong. You're on the wrong fucking team now, maybe consider being an American again and being on the side of the founding fathers of our country and of democracy rather than authoritarianism for the sake of belonging to a personality cult. CreepingDeath, LongTimeFan, Number9, and 4 others 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilerTitanHybrid Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 The beginnings of Totalitarian Trumpism, at your service! In order to really drive home the idea that people must show complete alliance and compliance with the government, totalitarian rulers often have secret police forces that make sure the people do not try to step out of line. In some nations, certain religious and political populations are targeted by the totalitarians and their police forces. The Origin of Totalitarian Countries The dictator of Italy for many years, Benito Mussolini, is the man to credit for coining the term of totalitarianism. In fact, he originally called a government of this nature a totalitario back in the early 1900s. He created the word to describe what we now recognize as fascism, but his exact words were that a totalitarian state has a government in which "all [are] within the state, none outside the state, [and] none against the state." By the time the second World War was underway, totalitarianism was recognized as an actual type of government system. The original definition of totalitarian governments considered them to be an oppressive way of ruling a nation. Many other dictators ruled under the guise of totalitarianism, so Mussolini was not alone. A few examples of leaders who ruled totalitarian countries include... Adolf Hitler of Germany under Nazi rule Joseph Stalin of the Soviet Union The Kim Dynasty of North Korea Mao Zedong of the People's Republic of China tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted July 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 I figured out why the pubs didn’t participate when I set up a open speak thread. The talking points weren’t out. I/We started talking about a serious line being crossed immediately. If you go look at the timeline of responses by the board when this happened, none of them said anything. I imagine that they were as shocked as we were. This is not the American way. But this man has done something to the minds of people and they are afraid to say one word wrong about him. I have questioned Obama. Biden. Sanders. I have agreed about the border. Tariffs. And after he was elected I hoped that he would do something good. DT. Their response is strange. Lacking of character. Senators. Same. Paul Ryan Quit. He quit on America. Speaker of the House. That’s one of the most powerful positions in America. QUIT. CreepingDeath 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downtown Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 Its comical that people think the entire city of Portland is in some kind of chaos. Trump deployed the Feds to distract from the virus and feed his idiots. The protests in Portland were quiet and dwindling and located in one area with weeks going by without destruction. It was all but over, but Trump needed to feed the distraction and escalate. I, for one, love seeing conservatives and libertarians give up their belief system to support Trump. They're setting the precedent. We're actively witnessing the death of conservatism in America. Deficits don't matter anymore, we can just borrow more money. The stock market is now a full-fledged government backed socialist system that will become fully government controlled when the Fed starts buying individual stocks. The whole thing is setting itself up for a massive shift to socialist programs in America and the Republicans of all people are the ones who are fueling it! Crazy times. 'Nator, Number9, and OILERMAN 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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