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The reaction would be that local enforcement and national guard presence be there to preserve peace and protect property.    Not jackbooted fascist secret police thugs with unmarked paramili

Lol violent riots in Portland. ?

This is a classic case of the arsonist trying to  take credit for putting out the fire.  Trump's storm troopers are making the situation worse so that he can claim he's the law and order president.

14 hours ago, Number9 said:

First, let me say this is a safe space and Republican posters can speak freely in this thread.  I have held Republican Views ONLY threads in the past and there we no attacks against their ideas and opinions.  We learn nothing by arguing and not listening.  I myself am guilty of ignoring some posters, but I am emptying my ignore list.  You may speak freely.

 

What is you opinion of the president sending in Federal agents to arrest protester against the wishes of the Mayor of Portland(D) and the Governor of Oregon(D).

 

Do you think he should send Federal agents to Chicago.

 

Again, this is a safe space. 

Trump got the idea from Putin who regularly murders protesters and the journalists that cover them. Do we even know what happened to those arrested who Trump has called "anarchists"? The Republicans response reminds me of this...

 

First they came for the Communists


And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

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14 hours ago, Number9 said:

Thank you for sharing, BUT this thread is for right leaning posters.  No verbal attacks.  No put downs.  It's a safe zone.  I think we all realize this is a different time in our nation.  Whatever we have done, mistakes, great things, no matter-we are united when we feel threatened from outside, side by side.

No offense. And I will not comment since you want this to be a "safe place" for right wing posters. But come on. You have to able to accept both sides of a discussion.

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2 hours ago, Number9 said:

Are you concerned at all that a different president with left leaning politics could do the same thing?  

No, why would i be concerned that either party decides to protect our federal buildings?

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it's obvious neither the media or the Democrats want the president to put down these violent riots in Portland, Chicago, and elsewhere.  They just trash federal law enforcement, accuse them of kidnapping, etc., claim the president is politicizing the riots, and on and on.  I can assure you that if the Tea Party had been rioting every night, defacing government property, beating police and citizens, shutting down city blocks and streets, and been talking about overthrowing the government, there would be a very different reaction from these hypocrites and frauds.

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21 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

it's obvious neither the media or the Democrats want the president to put down these violent riots in Portland, Chicago, and elsewhere.  They just trash federal law enforcement, accuse them of kidnapping, etc., claim the president is politicizing the riots, and on and on.  I can assure you that if the Tea Party had been rioting every night, defacing government property, beating police and citizens, shutting down city blocks and streets, and been talking about overthrowing the government, there would be a very different reaction from these hypocrites and frauds.

I can also guarantee you if Trump wasn’t posting white supremacist videos on Twitter that the cities would be a lot better off. 

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51 minutes ago, Callidus said:

No offense. And I will not comment since you want this to be a "safe place" for right wing posters. But come on. You have to able to accept both sides of a discussion.

They never really participated, so anyone can join in.  

It's a huge event historically and I really wanted to see some honest opinions.  

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The beginnings of Totalitarian Trumpism, at your service!

 

In order to really drive home the idea that people must show complete alliance and compliance with the government, totalitarian rulers often have secret police forces that make sure the people do not try to step out of line. In some nations, certain religious and political populations are targeted by the totalitarians and their police forces.

 

The Origin of Totalitarian Countries

The dictator of Italy for many years, Benito Mussolini, is the man to credit for coining the term of totalitarianism. In fact, he originally called a government of this nature a totalitario back in the early 1900s. He created the word to describe what we now recognize as fascism, but his exact words were that a totalitarian state has a government in which "all [are] within the state, none outside the state, [and] none against the state."

 

By the time the second World War was underway, totalitarianism was recognized as an actual type of government system. The original definition of totalitarian governments considered them to be an oppressive way of ruling a nation. Many other dictators ruled under the guise of totalitarianism, so Mussolini was not alone.

 

A few examples of leaders who ruled totalitarian countries include...

Adolf Hitler of Germany under Nazi rule

Joseph Stalin of the Soviet Union

The Kim Dynasty of North Korea

Mao Zedong of the People's Republic of China

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I figured out why the pubs didn’t participate when I set up a open speak thread. The talking points weren’t out. I/We started talking about a serious line being crossed immediately. If you go look at the timeline of responses by the board when this happened, none of them said anything. I imagine that they were as shocked as we were. This is not the American way. 
 

But this man has done something to the minds of people and they are afraid to say one word wrong about him. I have questioned Obama. Biden. Sanders. I have agreed about the border. Tariffs. And after he was elected I hoped that he would do something good. DT. 

 

Their response is strange. Lacking of character. Senators. Same. Paul Ryan Quit. He quit on America. Speaker of the House. That’s one of the most powerful positions in America. QUIT. 

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Its comical that people think the entire city of Portland is in some kind of chaos. Trump deployed the Feds to distract from the virus and feed his idiots. The protests in Portland were quiet and dwindling and located in one area with weeks going by without destruction. It was all but over, but Trump needed to feed the distraction and escalate. 

 

I, for one, love seeing conservatives and libertarians give up their belief system to support Trump. They're setting the precedent. We're actively witnessing the death of conservatism in America. Deficits don't matter anymore, we can just borrow more money. The stock market is now a full-fledged government backed socialist system that will become fully government controlled when the Fed starts buying individual stocks. The whole thing is setting itself up for a massive shift to socialist programs in America and the Republicans of all people are the ones who are fueling it! Crazy times. 

 

 

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