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Marcus Mariota came into the NFL with as explosion.  His first game @TB was a thing of beauty and we all celebrated!  Finally, we had us a QB!  A real QB who looked like he might become the best in the NFL.  I'm a homer, but everybody said he looked fabulous.  He had a reasonable rookie year as he played through a tumultuous season. 

 

2015  2800 YD, 19 TD, 10 INT  PRG 92  235 YPG  7.6 YPA, 12.3 YPC 

2016  3426 YD  26 TD   9 INT  PRG 96  228 YPG   7.9 YPA  12.4 YPC**

2017  3232 YD  13 TD  15 INT  PRG 79  215 YPG   7.1 YPA  11.5 YPC

2018  2528 YD  11 TD    8 INT  PRG 92  180 YPG   7.6 YPA  11.1 YPC

 

When the 2017 season started, Mariota was being touted by the national media as one of two rising QB who would become the next elites.  The next generation to carry NFL popularity along with David Carr.  So, what happened?

 

**I believe he got hurt in 2016.  I'm not talking about the Jags game, but before then I think he got the hell knocked out of him and he changed.  Mariota was having a great year in 2016, 3232 yards, 26 TD and just 9 INT.  But if you examine the logs in 2016, he was on pace to have an even better year.  I think he got tagged in Chicago and he became a different player.  The season ending injury by the Jags just re-enforced the understanding in his mind that this is a game for big, athletic men who will break you apart.

 

Look at the 2016 logs after that Chicago game.  Denver 88 yards, 0 TD 0 INT  45.4 PRG.  KC 241 YD  0 TD  1 INT  68 PRG  Jax 73 PRG.  The entire season he had a PRG of 92 even with 20% of the 15 games he played having such weak number.  I imagine if you looked at his first 12 games of 2016, he was well ahead of his ending stats and would have had close to 4,000 yards if he played 16 full games at that pace.

 

So, I give you the when.  The hit may have been seen as just another day at the office, but that Chicago  game changed him somehow.  If you look at his logs you'll see even though his completion yards per attempt went up, his YPC declined badly.  His numbers have steadily declined since that game.

 

Who Done It? 

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1 hour ago, Number9 said:

Marcus Mariota came into the NFL with as explosion.  His first game @TB was a thing of beauty and we all celebrated!  Finally, we had us a QB!  A real QB who looked like he might become the best in the NFL.  I'm a homer, but everybody said he looked fabulous.  He had a reasonable rookie year as he played through a tumultuous season. 

 

2015  2800 YD, 19 TD, 10 INT  PRG 92  235 YPG  7.6 YPA, 12.3 YPC 

2016  3426 YD  26 TD   9 INT  PRG 96  228 YPG   7.9 YPA  12.4 YPC**

2017  3232 YD  13 TD  15 INT  PRG 79  215 YPG   7.1 YPA  11.5 YPC

2018  2528 YD  11 TD    8 INT  PRG 92  180 YPG   7.6 YPA  11.1 YPC

 

When the 2017 season started, Mariota was being touted by the national media as one of two rising QB who would become the next elites.  The next generation to carry NFL popularity along with David Carr.  So, what happened?

 

**I believe he got hurt in 2016.  I'm not talking about the Jags game, but before then I think he got the hell knocked out of him and he changed.  Mariota was having a great year in 2016, 3232 yards, 26 TD and just 9 INT.  But if you examine the logs in 2016, he was on pace to have an even better year.  I think he got tagged in Chicago and he became a different player.  The season ending injury by the Jags just re-enforced the understanding in his mind that this is a game for big, athletic men who will break you apart.

 

Look at the 2016 logs after that Chicago game.  Denver 88 yards, 0 TD 0 INT  45.4 PRG.  KC 241 YD  0 TD  1 INT  68 PRG  Jax 73 PRG.  The entire season he had a PRG of 92 even with 20% of the 15 games he played having such weak number.  I imagine if you looked at his first 12 games of 2016, he was well ahead of his ending stats and would have had close to 4,000 yards if he played 16 full games at that pace.

 

So, I give you the when.  The hit may have been seen as just another day at the office, but that Chicago  game changed him somehow.  If you look at his logs you'll see even though his completion yards per attempt went up, his YPC declined badly.  His numbers have steadily declined since that game.

 

Who Done It? 

Uhhh we’ve been over this a million times. 

 

exotic smash mouth was easily figured out and Murray was no longer effective...then the coaches were incapable of adapting and we still had a huge hole of talent at the skill positions. The coaches planned a whole offense around running the QB (who couldnt run because he got injured) and the whole passing offense around a rookie in CD that wasn’t good yet... and was also injured the entire offseason.

 

Then last season mariota fucked up his hand in game 1. When it was healthy he was fine. When he wasn’t healthy, he literally could not grip and throw the ball. 

 

Its mostly that simple.

 

the rest is easily attributed to the fact he had 5 offenses and coordinators and 3 HC and easily the worst talented roster in the league that still has massive holes on the offensive side. 

 

Also pretty glaringly obvious you didn’t watch or dont remember the last 4 games of 2016... Denver he -played great. Go watch it. Literally had to throw the ball away or run it because no one was open and the pocket was destroyed. Go watch it. KC.. played well and brought us back. Jaxonville he only played a half because of injury and missed the last game of the season.  ... these were also 3 of the top pass defenses in the league.

 

Remember what we talked about then and look up the games again and dont go by just stats like idiots do. 

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OR.....Denver had an absolutely devastating defense in 2016 & was fresh off totally shutting down Tom Brady, so Mariota likewise struggled?

 

Mariota also threw as impressive a TD pass as you'll ever see to Matthews against Chiacago, so I'm not sure this theory holds up very well.

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9 hours ago, Number9 said:

Marcus Mariota came into the NFL with as explosion.  His first game @TB was a thing of beauty and we all celebrated!  Finally, we had us a QB!  A real QB who looked like he might become the best in the NFL.  I'm a homer, but everybody said he looked fabulous. 

All his success in the first game came from RPOs that the Bucs were totally unprepared for. It was complete fools gold. 

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9 hours ago, titanruss said:

Uhhh we’ve been over this a million times. 

 

exotic smash mouth was easily figured out and Murray was no longer effective...then the coaches were incapable of adapting and we still had a huge hole of talent at the skill positions. The coaches planned a whole offense around running the QB (who couldnt run because he got injured) and the whole passing offense around a rookie in CD that wasn’t good yet... and was also injured the entire offseason.

 

Then last season mariota fucked up his hand in game 1. When it was healthy he was fine. When he wasn’t healthy, he literally could not grip and throw the ball. 

 

Its mostly that simple.

 

the rest is easily attributed to the fact he had 5 offenses and coordinators and 3 HC and easily the worst talented roster in the league that still has massive holes on the offensive side. 

 

Also pretty glaringly obvious you didn’t watch or dont remember the last 4 games of 2016... Denver he -played great. Go watch it. Literally had to throw the ball away or run it because no one was open and the pocket was destroyed. Go watch it. KC.. played well and brought us back. Jaxonville he only played a half because of injury and missed the last game of the season.  ... these were also 3 of the top pass defenses in the league.

 

Remember what we talked about then and look up the games again and dont go by just stats like idiots do. 

Stats can tell a story.  You would rather it be blamed on everybody but him.  Other team, coach, talent around him, injury, but he's the only constant.  Rookies play through coaching changes.  You tell me to look at the games, but I see stats praising Mariota.  Now, I may be wrong,  It's happened before.  But I'm telling you the light went out in Chicago.

 

You blame coaches.  Did they tell him to start throwing WTF passes?  Before the Steeler's game in 2017, "Ok Marcus, we're going to trick the Steelers by throwing them the ball."

 

Something happened to HIM.  He was playing awful before he hurt his funny bone.  

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1 hour ago, Titans279 said:

All his success in the first game came from RPOs that the Bucs were totally unprepared for. It was complete fools gold. 

Never in the history of football has there been a less accurate accounting of a quarterback's performance, than that one.

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