CaliTitan3518 Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Fuck it. Im going knife haha. The fight to death part makes it the logical answer. Take the weapon that makes winning the easiest. I asked my friends the same question and the first 5 guys all said bat lol OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliTitan3518 Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) You can survive several stab wounds and be fine. I know a guy that was stabbed 13 times and was fine. So I think you have to know how to use the knife in order for it to be a major advantage. I guess you would be more likely to bleed to death though. Edited May 19, 2017 by CaliTitan3518 pat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 I still think the boxer vs wrestler analogy holds. It's reach and striking power versus control and finishing up close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, Jamalisms said: I still think the boxer vs wrestler analogy holds. It's reach and striking power versus control and finishing up close. Yes and no, that example doesn't really hold up because realistically a wrestler would never be able to out box a boxer and a boxer would never be able to grapple with a wrestler. I say that never would hold up because there are rules in boxing that specifically go against grappling. In this analogy the professional MMA fighter/wrestler would beat a professional boxer in a street fight probably 100% of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said: In this analogy the professional MMA fighter/wrestler would beat a professional boxer in a street fight probably 100% of the time. Which is why I went with knife, after consideration. Take the weapon that gives an advantage up close. OILERMAN, and wiscotitansfan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 8 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Sure, hitting someone with a bat with one arm would cause "pain". Unfortunately causing someone pain doesn't quit do the job in a fight to the death. You could stab or cut someone to shreds in seconds with a knife. There are different degrees and considerations for pain. A bruise on the arm, or even fractured arm is going to be different than a broken nose with blood flying all over the your face, difficulty breathing, and blurred vision. Whoever gets the broken nose is immediately put at a disadvantage. Similarly, a good knock to the balls immediately puts the receiver at a disadvantage. Or hell, breaking a wrist. Not a death blow, but the fight is pretty much over at the point. It doesn't have to be a death blow (and is usually not) on the first hit. It's just not how fights usually go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, CaliTitan3518 said: I think you have to think about how the person with the bat is fighting. If he is the primary aggressor then sure the knife is better because countering with one stab could end it. If the person with a bat is fighting defensively only way the knife is getting close enough to stab you is if the knife is faster than you and bull rushes you. To me the strategy is pretty simple with the bat. Keep the distance and attack the hands. You can't hold a knife with broken hands. Yep. I think a more defensive approach with the bat would give the best results. Going melee with the bat, at least until the moment warrants, will probably get you in trouble. pat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, Rogue said: Or hell, breaking a wrist. Not a death blow, but the fight is pretty much over at the point. Crazy talk... In a fight to the death a broken wrist won't even stop you from using that wrist to punch someone in the face and probably won't lose too much motion with it. There's no way with that adrenaline that if someone broke my wrist I wouldn't be able to pick up and use a knife at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said: Crazy talk... In a fight to the death a broken wrist won't even stop you from using that wrist to punch someone in the face and probably won't lose too much motion with it. There's no way with that adrenaline that if someone broke my wrist I wouldn't be able to pick up and use a knife at all. Maybe..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said: Crazy talk... In a fight to the death a broken wrist won't even stop you from using that wrist to punch someone in the face and probably won't lose too much motion with it. There's no way with that adrenaline that if someone broke my wrist I wouldn't be able to pick up and use a knife at all. Without training to overcome fight or flight and for those who have never fought, wrestled, etc and experienced the stress and pain associated with it, I suspect that this mentality doesn't actually follow through to real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarb Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Bat. Just because I enjoy swinging a bat. If I'm gonna die, might as well go out on a high note. "He died doing what he loved." GLinks, pat, and IsntLifeFunny 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 25 minutes ago, Jamalisms said: Without training to overcome fight or flight and for those who have never fought, wrestled, etc and experienced the stress and pain associated with it, I suspect that this mentality doesn't actually follow through to real life. I disagree completely on that one, in a fight to the death I don't think you would need too much training and honing your adrenaline. Not that it's an exact comparison because you technically don't need your femur for anything other than support so it's simply just pain tolerance and not functionality but in 6th grade football one of my friends broke his femur mid game and finished the game. That's 6th grade football. I think that same adrenaline effect (multiplied exponentially) would kick in on a fight to the death. Same thing happened to me in a football game when I broke my thumb, I then continued the rest of the game (as a RB who needed to carry the ball). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said: I disagree completely on that one, in a fight to the death I don't think you would need too much training and honing your adrenaline. Not that it's an exact comparison because you technically don't need your femur for anything other than support so it's simply just pain tolerance and not functionality but in 6th grade football one of my friends broke his femur mid game and finished the game. That's 6th grade football. I think that same adrenaline effect (multiplied exponentially) would kick in on a fight to the death. Same thing happened to me in a football game when I broke my thumb, I then continued the rest of the game (as a RB who needed to carry the ball). If you know it's a fight to the death, the stress can be debilitating. Think of any one on one sport you've played and the anxiety before the match, then multiply by 1,000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, Jamalisms said: If you know it's a fight to the death, the stress can be debilitating. Think of any one on one sport you've played and the anxiety before the match, then multiply by 1,000. I get that but that's a completely different thing IMO, I was specifically just saying that the pain/functionality of a broken wrist would be far from the death blow that Rogue was implying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliTitan3518 Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 I think the reasoning for people choosing bat first is pretty simple. Hitting someone in the face with a bat sounds more fun than stabbing someone. titanruss, HigherLogic, and wiscotitansfan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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