TheChosenTitan Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 10 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Pretty evident now that both the Chiefs and Cowboys are heavily vetting the top 3 EDGE rushers in this draft even while it appears where they are selecting now they aren't likely to be in position to get any of them. If Borgonzi is faced with a situation where Reese and Bailey come off the board at #2 and #3 don't be surprised if there is a team out there like the Chiefs or possibly Saints that come calling about Bain. Be the worst case scenario Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Bobby Belt is very tied into the Cowboys also mentions its unusual behaviour for the Cowboys during the pre-draft process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernope Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Bobby Belt is very tied into the Cowboys also mentions its unusual behaviour for the Cowboys during the pre-draft process. You forgot the Windhorst fingers AussieTitanFan08 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Supernope said: You forgot the Windhorst fingers Supernope, Callidus, and Bulluck4dmvp 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Bobby Belt is very tied into the Cowboys also mentions its unusual behaviour for the Cowboys during the pre-draft process. They might be interested in moving up to 6 if one of those guys slips to that spot . they’d have to give up 12+20 to move up into the top 5 and they probably aren’t doing that . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, rns90 said: They might be interested in moving up to 6 if one of those guys slips to that spot . they’d have to give up 12+20 to move up into the top 5 and they probably aren’t doing that . The Cowboys were deep in the Maxx Crosby trade discussions they are clearly willing to give up premium capital to improve at EDGE. If they can't find it via FA/trade that only leaves the draft. Pragidealist, and headhunter 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, rns90 said: They might be interested in moving up to 6 if one of those guys slips to that spot . they’d have to give up 12+20 to move up into the top 5 and they probably aren’t doing that . What is the difference for them in trading to 3 vs 4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: What is the difference for them in trading to 3 vs 4? Using a traditional chart, 3rd pick=2200 pts. 4th pick=1800 pts . 12th pick =1200 pts . 20th pick =850. We could probably give back a future pick if we wanted to balance it out . Dallas main problem is that they pretty much have to give up both picks to move up that far. They can’t trade their 2027 first rounder (it’s a conditional pick). And I don’t think their second rounder in 2027 is enough to bridge the gap since future picks are docked a round. They’d still be 300 pts short (approximately) , if you do #12, Dallas 2026 3rd rounder , Dallas 2027 2nd rounder and Borgonzi ain’t taking less than whatever the chart indicates. Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, rns90 said: Using a traditional chart, 3rd pick=2200 pts. 4th pick=1800 pts . 12th pick =1200 pts . 20th pick =850. We could probably give back a future pick if we wanted to balance it out . Dallas main problem is that they pretty much have to give up both picks to move up that far. They can’t trade their 2027 first rounder (it’s a conditional pick). And I don’t think their second rounder in 2027 is enough to bridge the gap since future picks are docked a round. They’d still be 300 pts short (approximately) , if you do #12, Dallas 2026 3rd rounder , Dallas 2027 2nd rounder and Borgonzi ain’t taking less than whatever the chart indicates. Nor should he. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: Nor should he. Having the Chiefs give up their 2nd rounder to move up from 9 to 4 matches up exactly (or close to it ). I’d say there’s a 50-50 chance that Love drops to that spot. im not totally sure the Giants take him; ditto WSH. Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, rns90 said: Having the Chiefs give up their 2nd rounder to move up from 9 to 4 matches up exactly (or close to it ). I’d say there’s a 50-50 chance that Love drops to that spot. im not totally sure the Giants take him; ditto WSH. I think WSH would. Giants probably not. That's a good debatable trade- but you'd have to bank on losing Love and really any of the players in this draft anyone woudl say are blue chip or best in the draft... Depending o nthe. Giants. Styles or Downs maybe. Tate could fall that far. But I do like having 2 2nds in this draft. *shrugs*. I could be convinced either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Pragidealist said: I think WSH would. Giants probably not. That's a good debatable trade- but you'd have to bank on losing Love and really any of the players in this draft anyone woudl say are blue chip or best in the draft... Depending o nthe. Giants. Styles or Downs maybe. Tate could fall that far. But I do like having 2 2nds in this draft. *shrugs*. I could be convinced either way. That’s the thing though. They need the extra picks . Going into the draft , they need a starting RG (even if you sign Zeitler you need a future RG), another edge rusher, another WR, and probably another RB, and a starting ILB. Even if you punt one of these spots into round 4, it would be nice to have the picks . Depends on how many blue chip impact guys they have on their board. If it’s like 7 , they could probably chance it on one of these guys being available. The draft never goes to plan anyway. Guys go earlier and team bypasses a major need , especially on day 3z Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 51 minutes ago, rns90 said: They might be interested in moving up to 6 if one of those guys slips to that spot . they’d have to give up 12+20 to move up into the top 5 and they probably aren’t doing that . Why are you so zeroed in on them trading with the browns? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, Callidus said: Why are you so zeroed in on them trading with the browns? Because the Giants won’t trade with them and WSH is unlikely to as well. And NO will just pick the best available edge if it comes to that . Unless you think, the Titans are interested in moving down to 12. Pick a team from 3-7 that they are likely to trade with. ARZ requires both picks . So will probably TEN. Edited 1 hour ago by rns90 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, rns90 said: Because the Giants won’t trade with them and WSH is unlikely to as well. And NO will just pick the best available edge if it comes to that . Unless you think, the Titans are interested in moving down to 12. I think Titans want playmakers but also want high quality offers to make them reconsider... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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