For those of you who wanted to pass on Ward and wait for the loaded 2026 QB draft class

[titansfan]

I really dont understand why this is still going. Its a fact I hopped on the Ward train in January after the last game. I wasn't the biggest fan of Ward then but I saw enough that I knew he'd be the guy because we needed a QB.

 

This is boring because it really doesnt matter. Everyone got on board with Ward eventually. 

 

Lets do something more interesting please

[titansfan]

For what its worth (and to redirect the conversation to more interesting avenues) I dont think there is any prospect in this draft that is a legitimate top 10 pick level QB prospect. Ward just happened to be a part of an overall weak class but he was a bona-fide prospect. 

 

I think Ward would have been the 4th QB taken after Maye, Daniels, and Williams in 2024-- which is to say he would have went top 10 in a stacked QB draft.

 

I dont see that with any of the prospects this year. Mendoza has some qualities that may elicit thoughts and hopes of a more nimble Matt Ryan but its a projection for sure.

 

Why does this matter? Because we need at least one of these QBs to be a legitimate desired QB. I personally think New York isnt going to go all in on attempting to get a QB in this year's draft. They have 3 picks in 2027 where there will be more prospects to pick from (specifically those who need more development) like Sellers, Manning, Reed, Iamaleava.

 

I think 2027 is a year where we really see the dividends of NIL because more kids are opting to stay in college and 2027 just happens to be the year everyone declares

 

I think Jets sign a guy like Mac Jones. Meaning our likely trade partners are LV or Cleveland 

Edited November 15, 2025 by titansfan

[ctm]

QBs always rise in the draft, even when it's not warranted.  If a coach and staff like one of these guys, they aren't waiting and hoping for next  year. 

 

Trying to project about a draft class that's 2 years away is  classic draft nerd stuff.

[NashvilleNinja]

9 hours ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

I like Ty Simpson, but look at the talent on his offense compared to the talent on Ward’s offense. Ward’s WR1 from college can’t get off the p-squad for the worst team in the NFL who is running out 2 4th round rookies as their WR1 and 2. 

 

How is it that the judgement of a coaching staff that is widely expected to be blown out of the building at the end of the year is so maligned in so many other areas... but when it comes to Restrepo, people just tend to study at the feet of it? That baffles tf out of me.

 

Here's a tin foil hat nugget to chew on: Borgonzi has instructed them to keep him there to hide him and protect the tank. The secret weapon is being saved for 2026 and beyond.

 

[ctm]

Another tin foil hat nugget....XR isn't an NFL calibur player and is only here as a  favor to Ward.

[titansfan]

1 hour ago, ctm said:

QBs always rise in the draft, even when it's not warranted.  If a coach and staff like one of these guys, they aren't waiting and hoping for next  year. 

 

Trying to project about a draft class that's 2 years away is  classic draft nerd stuff.

 

Its not. Teams are doing it now. They are evaluating this year's and are coming to the consensus that there are going to only be two 1st round level QBs. Regional scouts already have baseline profiles on potential draft eligible underclassmen (like Sellers, Manning) so nobody is starting from scratch. Its still an issue of supply and demand.

 

If there aren't enough quality QBs to go around then naturally you look at potential longterm solutions and assess that Manning and Sellers who you would have considered as "3rd round level prospects but need development" this year would benefit from and improve in the extra year of college. NIL helps with this because it allows QBs to stay in college so largely i think you will see a decline in Anthony Richardson type scenarios where teams are betting on the traits and hoping they can develop simultaneously as youre handing them the keys to the franchise.

 

The assumption is the non-declared underclassmen are potential options the next year. It's all about generating options. If your QB isnt available this year or the supply isnt there then you generate options and that includes looking at a draft ahead as a possibility.

Edited November 15, 2025 by titansfan

[oldschool]

1 minute ago, titansfan said:

 

Its not. Teams are doing it now. They are evaluating this year's and are coming to the consensus that there are going to only be two 1st round level QBs. Regional scouts already have baseline profiles on potential draft eligible underclassmen (like Sellers, Manning) so nobody is starting from scratch. Its still an issue of supply and demand.

 

If there aren't enough quality QBs to go around then naturally you look at potential longterm solutions and assess that Manning and Sellers who you would have considered as "3rd round level prospects but need development" this year would benefit from and improve in the extra year of college. The assumption is they are potential options the next year. It's all about generating options. If your QB isnt available this year or the supply isnt there then you generate options and that includes looking at a draft ahead as a possibility.

 

@ctm the most draft nerd response ever which proves your point.

[titansfan]

Lol NFL organizations are billion dollar companies. They absolutely have longterm options.

 

Its not a draft board which i think is what youre thinking, but its "a who are our options right now" course of action. 

 

Then at the end of a season its "okay lets look deep dive  these prospects. Is there a guy in the draft that we like? Can we get him? No-- okay who can play this position right now and what's the future options". Well, the options are to sign this guy and develop  "Player X" and in 2027 these are some potential candidates based off our scouts. "Okay, well as we focus on this year-- start working on next year's priorities starting with that list".

 

Again, no one is starting from scratch. 

Edited November 15, 2025 by titansfan

[titansfan]

Scouting is the real workhorse of an NFL team. Its where you pay your dues and its a year around job. They are always working. They must be ready to report by January.

[Supernope]

poor Matt Miller

[oldschool]

1 hour ago, titansfan said:

Lol NFL organizations are billion dollar companies. They absolutely have longterm options.

 

Its not a draft board which i think is what youre thinking, but its "a who are our options right now" course of action. 

 

Then at the end of a season its "okay lets look deep dive  these prospects. Is there a guy in the draft that we like? Can we get him? No-- okay who can play this position right now and what's the future options". Well, the options are to sign this guy and develop  "Player X" and in 2027 these are some potential candidates based off our scouts. "Okay, well as we focus on this year-- start working on next year's priorities starting with that list".

 

Again, no one is starting from scratch. 

 

Nice strawman. No one ever side NFL front offices start over each year. What is being refuted is that NFL teams are doing what you draft nerds and the Mat Millers of the world where you pass on NFL QBs because the class 1-2 years later has better prospects. This year is proof that approach is foolish. Allar, Manning. Nussmeier, etc... You don't know where you are drafting in 2-3 years. You have to build out the board based on the current draft class which does not in any scenario imply they aren't researching and scouting guys who will be available down the road. it simply means they don't build the current board around such things because there are too many variables. 

Edited November 15, 2025 by oldschool

[ctm]

1 hour ago, oldschool said:

 

@ctm the most draft nerd response ever which proves your point.

Exactly,  All simple trueism.  That doesn't mean that teams are going to make decisions this year based on scouting reports and projections for 2027, iwhich was my original point.

 

This time last year then top QBs for the 2025 season were Nussmeir, Allar and Klubnick.  Fast forward to the present and  none of those three are rated  as 1st rounders and the top 3 guys are Mendoza, Chandler and Moore.  100% different a year later.

[titansfan]

Im not making any argument that next year's class is better. Im simply saying that Intel on the class allows for more informed generating of options

[NashvilleNinja]

3 hours ago, ctm said:

Another tin foil hat nugget....XR isn't an NFL calibur player and is only here as a  favor to Ward.

 

[Callidus]

3 hours ago, ctm said:

Another tin foil hat nugget....XR isn't an NFL calibur player and is only here as a  favor to Ward.

If ward needed his teddy bear to get a seat at the table they may have royally fucked that pick up.