Around the NFL Week 11 Discussion

[Mythos27]

10 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

He's a 5th round db who acts like was drafted at the top of the 2nd. And the 6th round pick the Titans got from the Jets is probably the appropriate value for the turd.

Idk who is worse him for deluding himself or fans here for acting like he's right. 

[rns90]

23 minutes ago, OzTitan said:

Watching Fields this season, it actually kind of feels like the Bears did a good job getting what they did from him. They even got him to sustain a top end WR1 season for DJ Moore there.

I only saw the last play before the 2 min warning.  Jackass wouldn’t even throw the ball on 4th and 3. Also he took forever to get the snap off.

 

 

[AussieTitanFan08]

Not sure any of the "sucky six" teams with 2 or fewer wins notch up a win in week 11. If that turns out being the case it will be a 7 game sprint (6 for the Giants who haven't had their bye) sprint to determine the #1 pick.

[Callidus]

48 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

Not sure any of the "sucky six" teams with 2 or fewer wins notch up a win in week 11. If that turns out being the case it will be a 7 game sprint (6 for the Giants who haven't had their bye) sprint to determine the #1 pick.

If there was actually a tankathon going on and they were all racing to the bottom id say the sadistic 6. 

[OzTitan]

I can see some parallels between the Pats and the Lions from a few seasons ago once they started being a good team.

[titanruss]

3 hours ago, Callidus said:

I think being able to call 300 different plays out of the same formation like the 9ers offense is more important than the "same play" out of different looks. 

 

I dunno. I can see both sides to it. They both have their simplicity and complications. 

[Callidus]

3 hours ago, titanruss said:

 

I dunno. I can see both sides to it. They both have their simplicity and complications. 

Simplicity definitely goes to the same play out of multiple formations. I was speaking more to which will give the other teams defense the most headache. Likely comes down to how well your guys can memorize and execute a large diverse number of plays. If they cant, then then a small number of plays from multiple formations would be better. But if they can run an entiree playboot out of one formation, that leaves the defense completely blund to what you are goign to do. 

[Nash]

When Brady was in his prime, the Pats only ran about 10-12  plays, but with pre snap motion and different positions moving to the spot to confuse the defense..I can't remember how other teams successfully defended it then.. anyone remember how ??

[Bongo59]

Love that Vrabel is putting the exclamation point oh how bad ownership is in TN.  

[Callidus]

24 minutes ago, Nash said:

When Brady was in his prime, the Pats only ran about 10-12  plays, but with pre snap motion and different positions moving to the spot to confuse the defense..I can't remember how other teams successfully defended it then.. anyone remember how ??

I seriously doubt that. They had 17 different screen passes/slants just out of generic 3 wide shotgun. 

Edited November 14, 2025 by Callidus

[NashvilleNinja]

10 hours ago, Callidus said:

Was really only a 10-20 spot trade up, still probably worth it.

 

It got him out of our hair so addition by subtraction probably makes it worth it by itself.

[oldschool]

17 minutes ago, Callidus said:

I seriously doubt that. They had 17 different screen passes/slants just out of generic 3 wide shotgun. 

 

It was Manning and the Colts who had roughly 15-20 plays but they ran them out of different personnel groupings.

[Somedude]

3 hours ago, Bongo59 said:

Love that Vrabel is putting the exclamation point oh how bad ownership is in TN.  

 

[titanruss]

6 hours ago, Callidus said:

Simplicity definitely goes to the same play out of multiple formations. I was speaking more to which will give the other teams defense the most headache. Likely comes down to how well your guys can memorize and execute a large diverse number of plays. If they cant, then then a small number of plays from multiple formations would be better. But if they can run an entiree playboot out of one formation, that leaves the defense completely blund to what you are goign to do. 

 

I think its too detailed of a conversation to have in this thread. Way too much to break down and way too much we dont know. Its an old battle... 

 

Jack of all trades vs specialized. 

 

I think that if you play a very smart defense you'd rather have a ton of plays but you also are limited by your playcaller being overwhelmed with options and your QB  having to know so much.

 

If you want to simplify for your QB and young players then you run a lot of the same plays in different formations so you can perfect a few plays... but it limits options and likely doesnt stress the defense. I'm sure you could have the playcall or  QB change individual routes as needed. 

 

I think there;s a balance and I;m not sure if teams limit themselves to one idea or the other. It;s most likely just a language thing. You can have 50 different route sets and run those from 50 different formations/alignments if you wanted... or 10 ax10, So essentially, you can do both.  You can also over-complicate the simple one and simplify the more complicated

 

The bigger issue is the lack of cohesion for the offense if you are doing neither particularly well. 

[SleepingTitan]

15 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

I been not bitching. His pettiness on social media has only further justified why he was sent packing.

Borgo basically said he's uncoachable if you read between the lines. I bet that fool was clapping back at coaches like "Me? Man you need to go talk to so-n-so who can't tackle and the OL before you come talk to me"