The Trump Files featuring Jeffery Epstein, MLK, JFK, RFK, Diddy Files

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[reo]

4 minutes ago, Titandan said:

First term? 

 

No. Last year.

 

Sorry. $3.5B. The $2.2B was his first month in office.

 

His current net worth is $7.3B.

Edited February 21 by reo

[nine]

I don’t imagine you spend much time perusing the corruption thread, eh?

[OzTitan]

That's all just very stupid. Obviously, the hows and the whys are more important than numbers without context. Also, it's pointless comparing uneven time periods.

 

And obviously, becoming the world's most famous man/couple for 8+ years is going to have a baseline effect on your finances when you're coming from the (relatively) puny starting point of 1.3M, lol.

 

Obviously, it's far more relevant to compare increase while in office.

 

Just basic common sense stuff that isn't at all surprising to see ignored.

Edited February 21 by OzTitan

[reo]

6 minutes ago, Titandan said:

You're wrong.  Trump's net worth increased by $2.8 billion (not $2.2B) since he first took office in 2016.  1.76 X increase?   Damn!  That's so corrupt.  I personally wouldn't mind that kind of return...

 

Where are you getting your numbers?

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/article/the-definitive-networth-of-donaldtrump/

 

Current net worth for Donald Trump is $7.3B. 

 

His net worth entering office was $2.2B.

 

 

[reo]

2 minutes ago, Titandan said:

Only fair to go for first term

 

No. His net worth went up by BILLIONS in his first months in office in 2025.

 

2 minutes ago, Titandan said:

It's more convenient than Chat GPT for me.  

 

 

Or you could go by Forbes

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/article/the-definitive-networth-of-donaldtrump/

 

 

Edited February 21 by reo

[reo]

You know what? Fuck it. Let's look at YOUR numbers.

 

31 minutes ago, Titandan said:

W Bush Net Worth: 
2000 - $20 million
Today - $45 million (estimated)
Growth =  2.25 X increase in 26 years.  
Grade = C

Obama Net Worth: 
2008 - $1.3 million
Today - $70 million
Growth = 53.85 X increase in 18 years! 
Investor Grade = A++++

Trump Net Worth:
2016 - $3.7 billion
Today - $6.5 billion 
Growth = 1.76 X increase in 10 years
Investor Grade = B+

Biden Net Worth:
2020 - $9 million
Today - $10 million 
Growth = 1.11 X increase in 6 years
Investor Grade = D-

 

Bush's net worth has gone up about $25M in the past 26 years.

Obama's net worth has gone up about $70M in the past 18 years. 

Biden's net worth has gone up by abnout $1M in the last 6 years.

 

Biden's is surprisingly low. Everyone else is fairly standard for a president after office who can write books and get paid tons for speaking engagements and consulting, etc. When you can get paid $400k for a speaking engagement, $1M a year isn't that crazy.

 

 

Trump's net worth has gone up by $2.8 BILLION. BILLION. BILLION!

Edited February 21 by reo

[reo]

2 minutes ago, Titandan said:

Biden made most of his money during his vice presidency. 

 

 

Ok? His net worth is $10M. That's nothing for a former president. Again, a speaking engagement can make $400k.

 

2 minutes ago, Titandan said:

Interesting how you mention billion vs million. 

When I first started investing in my 30's, I initially only started out with about $2-3k.  I was super happy when my net worth went up $30 in a single month.  

Now that I'm investing multiples of that, my net worth going up $300 a month means very little. 

Funny how that works.  However you invest, you don't measure yourself by comparing yourself to Warren Buffet's gains.  You measure your performance by the percentage that your net worth grew. 

When I just started out investing, if I compared my meager performance of $30 to even my current humble earnings today, I would have given up immediately.  Gotta start where you are currently.  

And I give props to Obama for making the most of his position. No hate here. I love capitalism. 

But if you're gonna hate, hate accordingly.  

 

what are you rambling about? Trump's net worth went up by Billions last year in his first month in office and you're just ignoring that? Dismissing that? Nothing? Absolutely nothing?

 

 

yeah, dude. You're not in a cult at all.

 

But you know.. Hunter Biden.

[reo]

6 minutes ago, Titandan said:

 

Still no response to the BILLIONS Trump made in his first month in office.

 

 

The. Most. Corrupt. President. EVER.

[reo]

11 minutes ago, Titandan said:

Let me break it down for you. 

You don't compare Apple's earnings to HTC's.  

You compare one's performance to where they themself have started out. 

Apple made $416 billion in 2025
HTC made $750 million in 2025

REO's logic: "Apple's Corrupt!!!!"

 

When someone makes BILLIONS in the first month of becoming president. That's insane.

 

He used the office of the president to enrich himself by billions of dollars.

 

The fact that you're dismissing it... is once again.. b/c you're in a cult.

Edited February 21 by reo

[Callidus]

37 minutes ago, Titandan said:

Let me break it down for you. 

You don't compare Apple's earnings to HTC's.  

You compare one's performance to where they themself have started out. 

Apple made $416 billion in 2025
HTC made $750 million in 2025

REO's logic: "Apple's Corrupt!!!!"

Trump isn't corrupt because of how much money he made, its because of how he made it. They are pointing out how much money he made because its an obvious indicator that the guy who is a shity buissness man made so much money in such a short period of time it should be painfully obvious he was using his position to take advantage of the system. And idiots. Lots of idiots to take advantage of as well. 

[reo]

14 minutes ago, Titandan said:

Okay... you got me.  Trump's a thief!  I'll give you that.

But he's also a philanthropist since he lost all that money in his first term. 

I guess we'll call it even Steven  


 

 

Cult.

[Callidus]

14 minutes ago, Titandan said:

My friend actually lost money on Trump coin.  I haven't personally researched the tokenomics of Trump coin because it doesn't really interest me, I'm already overleveraged on crypto, there's too many damn crypto alt coins, and I don't invest in stupid stuff I don't understand.  But that's the nature of crypto and Trump coin is not unique in that it accelerates the losses as well as the gains during bear and bull markets.  Hint: We are in a bear market. 

I haven't really paid attention to Trump's net worth since 2024.  If he cheated his way to riches, by all means, take him to court if you got a legit case.

All I've been saying is that net worth gained should be measured by average annual percentage.  Those with more money will obviously earn more money because they already have more invested.  It's a weird thing I wish I understood when I was much younger called the compound effect (AKA "the 8th wonder of the world").  

And if you're talking about using one's position to take advantage of the system, you should be using all presidents since Clinton as examples of that.  And I would counter that any president would be stupid not to take advantage of the system and connections made while they can due to their unique and privileged position as the president or former president of the United States.

If you haven't noticed, I spend a lot of time defending Trump because almost every political conversation leads to how evil he is.  Believe it or not, I don't wake up every day thinking, "How can I defend my man, Trump?"  

Some days I wish I could relax and read up on interesting updates on the Epstein Files totally unrelated to Trump.  But as the saying goes, "All political threads lead to Trump."  The only way I can get along with some of you is if I agree that Trump is that evil guy, Epstein's best friend, greedy thief, fraud, tyrant, idiot, fascist, racist, pedo.  I simply don't see him that way.  And as much as I'd like to be friendly with the lot of you, I'd rather say what I mean and mean what I say even if you all think I'm an idiotic troll bot.  So be it.  

The issue with using percentage gains is trump already had money and the crux of your argument obama didnt. 1million dollars in net worth means obama owned a house and him and his wife worked, maybe owned a few stocks. Thats perfectly middle class. 

 

The vast majority of Obama's wealth came from a book deal. He would not have got that book deal or not one of anywhere near the value if he wasn't president. However, that deal did not come off the backs of other people. 

 

Nobody was exploited, no one got a kick back, no one had to lose. 

 

On the other hand you have trump creating a coin with the sole puropse of making money for himself and a few investors off the gullible supporters of his. Anyone who knows how that stuff works could spot it from a mile away. But the cult of personality and just ignorance to how it works pulled in millions from people just to disappear overnight once trump and his guys dumped it on them. 

 

The coin is just the tip of the iceburg, everything from his cell service to his defunct university, almost everything is a scam. That doesn't even touch on all the stuff that is directly related to him being president but is enough that anyone else would be in prison. Well, not everyone, but that is another discussion. 

 

 

[OILERMAN]

6 hours ago, Titandan said:

My friend actually lost money on Trump coin. 

I haven't really paid attention to Trump's net worth since 2024. 

 

Typical dan right here.....

 

Has a dumbass "friend" who actually put money into "trump coin", how stupid do you have to be? 

 

Then dan spends page after page showing how Trump didn't use the office to grift his way to wealth. Then throws in he didn't pay attention since 2024, You know, the time frame when he started corrupting his way to billions by being president......lol " @Mythos27 can you say "intellectually dishonest" 

 

After returning to office, Donald Trump’s net worth jumped to $7.3 billion, up from $3.9 billion in 2024, according to a tally that Forbes published in September. In mid-December

 

 

[nine]

Corruption is when a figure in a position of power and authority uses their power of their office in exchange for financial gain and personal enrichment.

 

Prohibitions against government corruption aren't just federal law... they're written into the United States Constitution and US Code.   These prohibitions were written not just to stop corruption, but to prevent any appearance of corruption and/or conflicts of interest.   By law....anything that simply looks like corruption is by definition corruption.

 

Upon returning to office, among Trump's first official actions was a Presidential Executive Order ordering the DOJ to stop all investigation and prosecution of foreign corruption.   Trump himself stated that the 1978 Anti-Foreign Corruption Act and laws prohibiting foreign corruption were "bad laws".

 

Since the day Trump issued that EO,   foreign interests from around the world have dumped BILLIONS of dollars into the Trump Organization, Trump crypto, and other Trump-owned enterprises.   In exchange for their so-called  "investments".... these very same foreign interests have enjoyed a myriad array of favors and benefits:   presidential pardons for criminal convictions... DOJ withdrawing federal indictments and lawsuits for fraud and tax evasion....special preferential treatment from government agencies....the list goes on.