Starkiller Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 30 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Are we really going to do the AJ Brown thing again and just use the draft capital received for Simmons hoping to replace him. The far more likely outcome is this front office lets the first 6-7 weeks play out and if things are not going well the likes of Simmons, McCreary, Hooker (if he hasn't signed an extension), Key or any of the 1yr signings from this offseason SJD, Jones etc are all available ahead of the trade deadline. We wouldn’t have been a contender even with Brown (though we didn’t know that at the time). We won’t be a contender with Simmons. In the great scheme of things, the real problem was they wasted the draft pick on Burks. Callidus, and SleepingTitan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted March 31 Author Report Share Posted March 31 7 minutes ago, Starkiller said: We wouldn’t have been a contender even with Brown (though we didn’t know that at the time). We won’t be a contender with Simmons. In the great scheme of things, the real problem was they wasted the draft pick on Burks. Simmons will be 28y/o this season and should have plenty of good years left. In effect if you are saying this team won't be a contender with Simmons you are saying this team is going to be bad for the majority of Cam Ward's rookie deal. 10 A See, JbgTenn, and rns90 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 17 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Simmons will be 28y/o this season and should have plenty of good years left. In effect if you are saying this team won't be a contender with Simmons you are saying this team is going to be bad for the majority of Cam Ward's rookie deal. I’m saying he’s no longer going to be in his prime by the time the team might be able to compete. He’s also going to be a potential free agent in about the timeframe where they might optimistically be a contender again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted March 31 Author Report Share Posted March 31 4 minutes ago, Starkiller said: I’m saying he’s no longer going to be in his prime by the time the team might be able to compete. He’s also going to be a potential free agent in about the timeframe where they might optimistically be a contender again. So say Borgonzi is able to get a 2nd round pick for Simmons what are the odds you can get someone in the 2nd round that comes close to replicating his play both his run stuffing ability and collapsing the pocket. This team doesn't have a salary cap issue so saving the cap space from his contract doesn't really help them this year or in 2026 where they will have between $95-120 million in effective cap room depending on what they do with Ridley/Sneed after this year, we saw this offseason with the Patriots there is a point where you can have too much cap space with not enough good players to spend it on. I just don't see the point right now doing a like for like swap for Simmons and a rookie using the exact same draft capital you generated from trading him. All you might be achieving is making the team worse in the short term when you need to be doing everything both offensively and defensively to help a rookie QB find his feet in the NFL. The picture could be vastly different 8 weeks into the season if this team outright sucks and Simmons wants out but I just don't see them trading away one of their best defensive players right now. 10 A See, ctm, HigherLogic, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 12 minutes ago, Starkiller said: I’m saying he’s no longer going to be in his prime by the time the team might be able to compete. He’s also going to be a potential free agent in about the timeframe where they might optimistically be a contender again. You cant just trade away talent because you aren't sure when you will be good again. I can assure you that you will never be good if that is your plan. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 This is a really strange argument from one of the pro Ward guys. If you think he’ll be a franchise guy . That means the rebuild will be shorter than expected and that Simmons should still be in his prime when we will be a contender again. AussieTitanFan08, and Callidus 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 2 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Simmons will be 28y/o this season and should have plenty of good years left. In effect if you are saying this team won't be a contender with Simmons you are saying this team is going to be bad for the majority of Cam Ward's rookie deal. A swing and a miss sir. Simmons hasn’t been fully healthy for years. Saying he’s in his prime or even suggesting he has 3 good years left is laughable AussieTitanFan08 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 2 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: So say Borgonzi is able to get a 2nd round pick for Simmons what are the odds you can get someone in the 2nd round that comes close to replicating his play both his run stuffing ability and collapsing the pocket. This team doesn't have a salary cap issue so saving the cap space from his contract doesn't really help them this year or in 2026 where they will have between $95-120 million in effective cap room depending on what they do with Ridley/Sneed after this year, we saw this offseason with the Patriots there is a point where you can have too much cap space with not enough good players to spend it on. I just don't see the point right now doing a like for like swap for Simmons and a rookie using the exact same draft capital you generated from trading him. All you might be achieving is making the team worse in the short term when you need to be doing everything both offensively and defensively to help a rookie QB find his feet in the NFL. The picture could be vastly different 8 weeks into the season if this team outright sucks and Simmons wants out but I just don't see them trading away one of their best defensive players right now. What if you could get the Patriots to come off 38 and 69 or 77 for Simmons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted March 31 Author Report Share Posted March 31 (edited) 30 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: What if you could get the Patriots to come off 38 and 69 or 77 for Simmons? Why would they do that after giving Milton Williams a 4yr $104 million contract. Edited March 31 by AussieTitanFan08 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted March 31 Author Report Share Posted March 31 (edited) 58 minutes ago, SleepingTitan said: A swing and a miss sir. Simmons hasn’t been fully healthy for years. Saying he’s in his prime or even suggesting he has 3 good years left is laughable Sure he has been banged up but he gets himself out on the field the vast majority of the time he has recorded more snaps than Chris Jones in 4 of the last 5 seasons. And no I'm not saying Simmons is better than Jones. Edited March 31 by AussieTitanFan08 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnsideKick Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 From @GMFB at the NFL Annual Meeting: The #Titans are nearly done with their process to figure out the No. 1 pick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnsideKick Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Texas Tech OL Caleb Rogers has 30 visits scheduled with the Dallas Cowboys and Las Vegas Raiders, source said. Alignment versatile body up front has enjoyed an excellent predraft process with standout weeks both at the Senior Bowl & the combine in Indy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenTitan Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1906724328625897871?s=46&t=BXOuo627AXnnsLAwTRGy7g Callahan and Brinker not going to Colorado’s pro day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Just now, TheChosenTitan said: https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1906724328625897871?s=46&t=BXOuo627AXnnsLAwTRGy7g Callahan and Brinker not going to Colorado’s pro day But will be there for the private workout instead. Important to note. TheChosenTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 8 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Why would they do that after giving Milton Williams a 4yr $104 million contract. Hmm... because (hopefully) they're stupid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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