titanruss Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 2 hours ago, reo said: Why Trump’s Usual Defenses Won’t Work Phil Rotner: “And while some of the overt acts alleged against Trump might look less damning if Trump could show he truly believed he won the election, others would not. Even a sincere, deeply held belief that the election had been stolen would not, for instance, give Trump license to participate in a fake-electors scheme. As I wrote over a year ago, none of Trump’s standard defenses can excuse this piece of dirty work. Trump can’t claim he didn’t know about it, and he can’t claim that forging election certificates and then attempting to pawn them off as official documents is just fine as long as you believe you won an election.” “Think of it this way. You may be absolutely convinced that a charge on your credit card isn’t yours, but you can’t hack into the bank’s server to remove it. You may know with all your heart that your neighbor took your Rolex, but you can’t break into his house in the middle of the night to retrieve it (just ask O.J. Simpson about that one). You may hold it as an article of near-religious faith that the government is tyrannical, but you can’t blow up the federal building.” https://politicalwire.com/2023/08/03/why-trumps-usual-defenses-wont-work/ Then of course we already have Steve Bannon saying to a large group of people before the election that Trump has already planned to say the election was being stolen regardless if he wins or loses.... and that he will rile people up for support of his cause. So no defense of his ignorance will be a defense that stands. reo, IsntLifeFunny, and OILERMAN 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 “Loyalty is a one-way street for [Trump],” Barr told CNN Wednesday night. “And in many ways, these two people down in Mar-a-Lago represent many Republicans who feel that they have to man the ramparts and defend this guy no matter what he does and go along with him.” LOL Barr is a terrible human but that was a nice jab at the dumbass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scine09 Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said: “Loyalty is a one-way street for [Trump],” Barr told CNN Wednesday night. “And in many ways, these two people down in Mar-a-Lago represent many Republicans who feel that they have to man the ramparts and defend this guy no matter what he does and go along with him.” LOL Barr is a terrible human but that was a nice jab at the dumbass. And yet he still might vote for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 I get the impression that this will be an early trial date. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Come on Titans said: From what people have been saying this Judge is pretty hardcore and won't take shit. She's already said she'd lock him up. We'll see how much he pushes her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, reo said: From what people have been saying this Judge is pretty hardcore and won't take shit. She's already said she'd lock him up. We'll see how much he pushes her. I hope he pushes. I really do. reo, ChemEngr79, and Come on Titans 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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begooode Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) Trump doesn't care that by even making a pathetically desperate demand like this to the Supreme Court, he further calls into question their integrity, their perceived neutrality by nonMaga Americans. Former President Trump is calling on the Supreme Court to intercede in the legal battles he is facing after he pleaded not guilty federal to charges related to special counsel Jack Smith’s investigation of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot and efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. Trump in a post on Truth Social early Friday repeated accusations that President Biden is pushing for the cases against him for political purposes. Trump also said the multiple cases against him will require “massive amounts” of time and money and force him to use resources on court battles that could have been used for advertisements and rallies. “I am leading in all Polls, including against Crooked Joe, but this is not a level playing field. It is Election Interference, & the Supreme Court must intercede. MAGA!” Trump said. Edited August 4, 2023 by begooode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 49 minutes ago, begooode said: Trump doesn't even care that by even making a pathetically desperate demand like this to the Supreme Court, he further calls into question their integrity, their perceived neutrality by nonMaga Americans. Former President Trump is calling on the Supreme Court to intercede in the legal battles he is facing after he pleaded not guilty federal to charges related to special counsel Jack Smith’s investigation of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot and efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. Trump in a post on Truth Social early Friday repeated accusations that President Biden is pushing for the cases against him for political purposes. Trump also said the multiple cases against him will require “massive amounts” of time and money and force him to use resources on court battles that could have been used for advertisements and rallies. “I am leading in all Polls, including against Crooked Joe, but this is not a level playing field. It is Election Interference, & the Supreme Court must intercede. MAGA!” Trump said. The latest fund raising must be going slowly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Trump is essentially taking the position that a candidate running for President should have full immunity from criminal prosecution….which is obviously a complete load of crap. There’s absolutely no law or legislation that supports this theory. And if the Supreme Court were to establish such a precedent, this would open the door for crime bosses and drug kingpins to declare their own candidacy simply as a means of avoiding criminal prosecution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, nine said: Trump is essentially taking the position that a candidate running for President should have full immunity from criminal prosecution….which is obviously a complete load of crap. There’s absolutely no law or legislation that supports this theory. And if the Supreme Court were to establish such a precedent, this would open the door for crime bosses and drug kingpins to declare their own candidacy simply as a means of avoiding criminal prosecution. And there’s no reason you couldn’t announce your candidacy for the next election the day after the current election ends. Permanent immunity! Edited August 4, 2023 by Starkiller IsntLifeFunny, and begooode 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Trump's lawyer admitted he went with Eastman's plan B to steal the election in an interview on Fox lol. He literally admitted to Trump coercing Pence...dumbasses abound! nine, reo, heyitsmeallen, and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) Trump's lead in the polls is an indictment of our failed incentive structures in politics but first and foremost in our political 'news' distribution and consumption within the US. It was always vulnerable, but now it's a mess with people developing essentially a personal relationship with their bad info and bad actors. Edited August 4, 2023 by begooode IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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