headhunter Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, chef said: Can we all just pause and do a slow golf clap for the Raptor? Not that I WANT this to happen, but let's just imagine those rolling into Ukraine to hold A2A superiority. Talking about a plane that first went up nearly 25 years ago IIRC, that by all accounts still holding #1 top of the charts ranking. Had them on show at tarmac on Maui and got to take my boys up close and personal, talk to the crews. Very cool. Sure, maybe a one trick pony next to an F35, but a very nice trick. I think you have to consider that if the F22 HADN'T been around, there likely could have been more challenges seen over the years. FTR I am very much not on the pro-military/war monger side of things. But I do appreciate the technology, and the people behind it as well as flying/maintaining it. And I'm realistic about the world and human nature. If we didn't have the military we have we definitely wouldn't be a free nation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, chef said: Can we all just pause and do a slow golf clap for the Raptor? Not that I WANT this to happen, but let's just imagine those rolling into Ukraine to hold A2A superiority. Talking about a plane that first went up nearly 25 years ago IIRC, that by all accounts still holding #1 top of the charts ranking. Had them on show at tarmac on Maui and got to take my boys up close and personal, talk to the crews. Very cool. Sure, maybe a one trick pony next to an F35, but a very nice trick. I think you have to consider that if the F22 HADN'T been around, there likely could have been more challenges seen over the years. FTR I am very much not on the pro-military/war monger side of things. But I do appreciate the technology, and the people behind it as well as flying/maintaining it. And I'm realistic about the world and human nature. yeah, there's nothing that beats the F22 1v1.... or 2v1.... or 3v1. it's a straight up baller aircraft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, headhunter said: If we didn't have the military we have we definitely wouldn't be a free nation Not so sure that's completely true, but things would look different. I think we spend too much on military. But, as I said, I'm realistic too. People (countries) get a lot braver when they think they can get away with it. Like a bully not afraid of getting hit back. oldschool, and Starkiller 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted April 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 reo, Starkiller, and Rogue 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted April 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 Russian staging area in the captured airport 40kms from Kherson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 2 hours ago, headhunter said: If we didn't have the military we have we definitely wouldn't be a free nation That is just ridiculous nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 minute ago, WG53 said: That is just ridiculous nonsense. It's really not. We have the most resourceful land on planet earth and anybody would take it if they were capable. Titans279, and oldschool 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted April 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) Edited April 14, 2022 by tgo IsntLifeFunny, Come on Titans, OILERMAN, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, headhunter said: It's really not. We have the most resourceful land on planet earth and anybody would take it if they were capable. No, it's just false patriotic bravado. We don't have to have the military budget we do in order to protect our nation. The logistics alone for another country to attempt an invasion here is a huge challenge and cost. American exceptionalism is nothing but indoctrination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, WG53 said: No, it's just false patriotic bravado. We don't have to have the military budget we do in order to protect our nation. The logistics alone for another country to attempt an invasion here is a huge challenge and cost. American exceptionalism is nothing but indoctrination. So if we had 10% of the military nobody is gonna come and take California? Texas? Etc yeah ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 Just now, headhunter said: So if we had 10% of the military nobody is gonna come and take California? Texas? Etc yeah ok You realize we spend more than the next 10+ nations combined right? I assume you don't based on your ridiculous statements and assertions. If we cut our budget to 10% of what we spend currently we would still be spending more than everyone but China. And just to reiterate, the 10% talk is your arbitrary number not mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, headhunter said: It's really not. We have the most resourceful land on planet earth and anybody would take it if they were capable. Thank god we're safe from the Royal Canadian Mounties. They could have overrun us at any time and enforced the iron boot of universal healthcare upon us… Come on Titans, Jerry Blair, ChemEngr79, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Thank god we're safe from the Royal Canadian Mounties. They could have overrun us at any time and enforced the iron boot of universal healthcare upon us… Damn you're stupid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, tgo said: Wow. I feel like we're going to find out just how crazy Putin really is at some point. How much more embarrassment can he endure looking as weak and foolish as he is looking on the world stage? reo, IsntLifeFunny, and tgo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemEngr79 Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Rogue said: Wow. I feel like we're going to find out just how crazy Putin really is at some point. How much more embarrassment can he endure looking as weak and foolish as he is looking on the world stage? My Geiger counter arrived today...KI pills last week. Hope for the best; prepare for the worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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