oldschool Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Russian athletes speaking out now. They have to be careful with their words but the intent is clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said: @titanruss What is different is the US response. Two completely different hemispheres where only one is surrounded by an alliance. true for the alliance. And true that I actually do think the USA would defend Taiwan in the sea/land /air there. Not sure that we'd go on the offensive at any point unless China attacks us. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeFan Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 41 minutes ago, Titans279 said: I don't really understand why you guys think Trump would care about Russia invading Ukraine. Nothing Trump did showed that he thought it was actually worth it to support countries like Ukraine. He thought NATO and our alliances with Japan and South Korea were a waste of our resources. Why would he care if Putin invaded Ukraine? Javelins anybody? $400 million in military assistance. Yeah, but he could have sent them blankets, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, LongTimeFan said: I thought Scotty had the worst TDS. But you are giving him a run for his money. so I guess you agree with the points made. no idea what TDS means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, titanruss said: true for the alliance. And true that I actually do think the USA would defend Taiwan in the sea/land /air there. Not sure that we'd go on the offensive at any point unless China attacks us. Taiwan is of much greater strategic importance so you may be right. Can't fuck with our chip supply. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said: Javelins anybody? $400 million in military assistance. Yeah, but he could have sent them blankets, right? Are you under the impression that we just gave that away? We sold it to them. Trump allowing the sale of these weapons to go through is entirely consistent with his behavior. It's obviously good for the US, when you think of it like a business, to sell arms to anyone who wants them. That's why he approved so many historically large arms sales. It's good for US weapons manufacturers. There's no part of me that thinks Trump would want to approve this because he thought it's important for Ukraine to have these because they're an ally that needs to defend itself from Russia. I think you're reading Trump entirely wrong if you somehow think Trump would care about Ukraine being invaded past any extent that it make him look bad. This is the same aid that he then held back in an attempt to extort information damaging to the Biden campaign from Ukraine btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 I mean, this would basically mean starting a war with Russia. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 We still buy 500,000 barrels of oil a day from Russia, that's got to stop. if Ukraine wants to fuck with Russia blow up that natural gas pipeline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Blair Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, headhunter said: We still buy 500,000 barrels of oil a day from Russia, that's got to stop. if Ukraine wants to fuck with Russia blow up that natural gas pipeline. While I agree, this will blow up gas prices and you'll blame Biden. oldschool, and titanruss 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 I have this theory why Russia is doing this, yes Putin is crazy, yes he's always wanted Ukraine but it's about money. They make trillions exporting their energy. Germany going green really pissed Putin off, that is really what got the ball rolling and Merkel even owned up to her mistake recently. The west and Europe going green is a threat of war with Russia and it surrounding countries. That's why Kerry came out and said that about Putin and climate change. No I'm no kidding this isnt a blue or red thing. So to me war is inevitable eventually. Somebody mentioned Germany is what 45% running on greener energy. Thats gonna drop big time to make Putin happy, Germany is already switching back to run l off gas and coal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Jerry Blair said: While I agree, this will blow up gas prices and you'll blame Biden. No I won't. I know what's at stake. Hit Putin where it hurts and that's the pipelines feeding Germany. Blow the fuck out of them. Jerry Blair 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, El Guapo said: Maybe your side should have not followed energy policies that enabled Putin to make millions while we relied on importing oil. Democrats. And sucking Putin is minor leagues to the deep throating occurring with China… never seemed to bother you before. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reo Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Paying attention Putin has been saying to Ukraine... Seems like he thought or thinks the Ukrainian military would take over throw the democratic government if he invaded and pressured them. Then he'd install another puppet. Doesn't seem like it's happening yet though at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, tgo said: he’s not gonna leave he wants the US to send troops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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