Bongo59 Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Number9 said: Interesting. If so.......I like it. Weaver is going to be solid as a rotational piece. This story is a NOTHINGBURGER. Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Bongo59 said: If so.......I like it. Weaver is going to be solid as a rotational piece. This story is a NOTHINGBURGER. Again, it still comes down to..... If the front office even asks 1 single question to themselves along the lines of "what can we possibly do more that that other teams may be doing" then they disagree with you You're doubling and tripling down on arguing for some notion that people should not attempt to learn from their mistakes Edited May 5, 2021 by wiscotitansfan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo59 Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 If TN wanted the player none of this matters.......they clearly did because they drafted him. So what happened whether they know or not is immaterial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo59 Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 I could care less if the scouts or Jrob learns anything. They wanted a player.........they got him. Let's move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, Bongo59 said: I could care less if the scouts or Jrob learns anything Got it. We just inherently disagree on knowledge and experience meaning anything going forward. No point in arguing against that stance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 21 hours ago, tgo said: He's talking about those reporters insinuating that the scouts he talked to from other teams and reported on could be lying about what they knew. This is whati am thinking. Its just like how everyone and their mom now claims that they knew something was off with wilson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ToneTerror Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, JoelinBellevue said: Exactly, by the 4th round you are just picking a need and the highest available player to fit that need. You have no idea who will be there at that time. You cannot vet every player out there. You just hope that if he had a problem it would be public information. The fact this happened so fast before the draft pretty much excuses Jrob. Oh look...a smart post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, Callidus said: This is whati am thinking. Its just like how everyone and their mom now claims that they knew something was off with wilson. Difference here is that these sources are anonymous and therefore won't get any "credit" for knowing. What's the incentive to lie about knowing something if no one even knows you're the one making that claim? Makes no sense that they would lie. tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted May 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Mythos27 said: Difference here is that these sources are anonymous and therefore won't get any "credit" for knowing. What's the incentive to lie about knowing something if no one even knows you're the one making that claim? Makes no sense that they would lie. Only possible motive would be a rival team's scout or a disgruntled former Titans scouts just trying to help sow discord, but seems unlikely that that many would lie. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, tgo said: Only possible motive would be a rival team's scout or a disgruntled former Titans scouts just trying to help sow discord, but seems unlikely that that many would lie. Exactly. People wanting to believe that the scouts are lying because they want to let the Titans off the hook doesn't mean that the scouts are lying. I believe PK's reporting. tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, Mythos27 said: Exactly. People wanting to believe that the scouts are lying because they want to let the Titans off the hook doesn't mean that the scouts are lying. I believe PK's reporting. I don't think the scouts are lying but the reactionary response that because a few scouts knew the Titans should have known is fallacy. Starkiller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted May 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, Mythos27 said: Exactly. People wanting to believe that the scouts are lying because they want to let the Titans off the hook doesn't mean that the scouts are lying. I believe PK's reporting. At this point, what's done is done and the best we can probably hope for is that the young scouts are learning lessons. Hopefully the Weaver situation is overblown and it blows over and Weaver can play this year. If he did what is reported, then he should be held accountable but also given a chance to learn/grow and be put on final warning notice going forward. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, oldschool said: I don't think the scouts are lying but the reactionary response that because a few scouts knew the Titans should have known is fallacy. Hypothetically, how many teams knowing would it take for you to change your stance and feel like the Titans should've known? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldschool Posted May 5, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, Mythos27 said: Hypothetically, how many teams knowing would it take for you to change your stance and feel like the Titans should've known? I'm still waiting for someone to explain a plausible scenario that allows teams to adequately monitor for legal issues a few days before the draft for all players on their draft boards. The best explanation so far is having contacts locally. Even still that doesn't explain how that can be applied at the macro level. Do we really think area scouts are calling players and agents asking if they have been arrested are been involved in anything recently? Do we really think Agents would self report on behalf of their clients? The expectations here are ridiculous. Its one thing for a previous issue to come up during the pre draft process when teams thoroughly vette prospects. Its another to expect teams to catch every single thing that occurs after the pre draft vetting process is completed and the draft takes place. StephenIsLegend, Number9, japan, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, oldschool said: I'm still waiting for someone to explain a plausible scenario that allows teams to adequately monitor for legal issues a few days before the draft for all players on their draft boards Real question - do you think the only scenario where any team could possibly get this information from is by having a scout in the right place at the right time? If you think there's literally no other way besides that then sure, why even bother looking into a solution. But you honestly don't think it's even worth asking yourself just one single time, how did those other teams know? Edited May 5, 2021 by wiscotitansfan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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