Biden White House: Year 4

[tgo]

 

[begooode]

$2 gallon gas = more 15mpg SUVs.  That might be what we want, because Americans believe we are entitled to cheap gas, but it's not necessarily what's best for us in the long run.  Every time gas has been cheap, we have become more and more wasteful with that valuable resource and fail to look at the total impact -- guzzle up!! another spin of Tragedy of the Commons

[headhunter]

53 minutes ago, begooode said:

$2 gallon gas = more 15mpg SUVs.  That might be what we want, because Americans believe we are entitled to cheap gas, but it's not necessarily what's best for us in the long run.  Every time gas has been cheap, we have become more and more wasteful with that valuable resource and fail to look at the total impact -- guzzle up!! another spin of Tragedy of the Commons

And evs are? Charging them 24/7

[Starkiller]

16 minutes ago, headhunter said:

And evs are? Charging them 24/7

Where the fuck are you getting this? You don’t charge an EV 24/7. 
 

And using electricity instead of oil doesn’t require us to fund dictators in Saudi Arabia or Russia.

[MadMax]

2 hours ago, Starkiller said:

Oil refining isn’t going away in my lifetime.

And I hate that I won't live to see it either.   Not many things would bring me pleasure like seeing the oil barons neutered.

[headhunter]

3 hours ago, MadMax said:

And I hate that I won't live to see it either.   Not many things would bring me pleasure like seeing the oil barons neutered.

You know we use petroleum for pretty much everything else in our lives

[Starkiller]

2 minutes ago, headhunter said:

You know we use petroleum for pretty much everything else in our lives

This from the guy who claims that refiners aren’t building new capacity because of political pressure to eliminate the oil industry. 
 

Pick a side of the argument and stick with it…

[Starkiller]

On 9/26/2023 at 3:35 PM, Starkiller said:

 

[OILERMAN]

Standing in the picket line with striking workers is pretty damn progressive

[begooode]

9 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Standing in the picket line with striking workers is pretty damn progressive

It’s a Bernie Sanders move, for sure. Can Biden pull it off while still motivating centrists to get out the vote? Or is it a freebie, given that many will be motivated to vote against Trump and his craziness. 

[IsntLifeFunny]

12 hours ago, tgo said:

 

I can't think of a single thing Republicans are honest about. Add that to the constant gaslighting and it's ridiculously toxic. How do you even begin to deal with these people when they openly lie about everything? 

[ctm]

4 hours ago, begooode said:

It’s a Bernie Sanders move, for sure. Can Biden pull it off while still motivating centrists to get out the vote? Or is it a freebie, given that many will be motivated to vote against Trump and his craziness. 

Polling shows that support for unions has gone up.  Over a majority of people so Biden is on the right side of public opinion.

[IsntLifeFunny]

5 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Standing in the picket line with striking workers is pretty damn progressive

I don't have to even fully agree with the unions to see what has happened since the pandemic is non-sense. The US tax payer gave companies over a trillion dollars and in turn they increased their profit by record margins, increased their prices on struggling Americans, and have been one of the prime movers of inflation.

 

Setting a standard of paying your workers in-line with increased productivity is not only the moral thing to do but it makes sense economically as well. The GOP frames it as a government edict, when it couldn't be further from the truth. The US tax payer is on the hook for trillions of dollars in direct subsidies, a bailout, and then direct payments during Covid. The US government can't account for 200 billion dollars they gave to corporations. 

[reo]

 

 

Both of these guys are worth a follow

 

[tgo]