9 Nines Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Perhaps leaving NATO to align with Russia is the end game. If it happened it would be Russia's biggest public triumph since early lead in space exploration or military wins in WWII. Strategically it would be a huge win because it would curtail any pipelines from the Middle East into Europe, solidifying Europe's dependence on Russian energy for Winter heating. Also with Syria and Iranian groups, such an alliance could flood Europe with refugees at a moments notice by attacking poor people in the region and funnel them through Turkey into Europe. This is like the game Risk. During a cold Winter, Russia could cut off Europe's energy supply, freezing its people then flood it with refugees to give it major domestic problems to handle. Then Russia could invade some of its previous satellite countries with no resistance while Europe's hands were tied with those problems and the USA occupied with a Putin puppet in the White House. Europe could try to prevent that scenario by trying to damage Trump as much as it can to prevent him from getting re-elected. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/10/turkey-and-nato-troubled-relationship/599890/ Edited October 17, 2019 by 9 Nines Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetroleroTitanico Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 This could only happen if the only superpower nation in the world allows it. What would have seemed unimaginable a few years ago is now unfortunately not so far-fetched. Continiung on this path is dangerous for the entire world, but it’s happening as people allow a corrupt and compromised traitor to remain president. titanruss, and MadMax 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ctm Posted October 17, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 hours ago, PetroleroTitanico said: This could only happen if the only superpower nation in the world allows it. What would have seemed unimaginable a few years ago is now unfortunately not so far-fetched. Continiung on this path is dangerous for the entire world, but it’s happening as people allow enable a corrupt and compromised traitor to remain president. FIFY And that includes Senators, congressmen, republicans, those who voted for him and posters right here who continue to defend and support Trump. This whole group created this corrupt mess in Washington and enabled Trump to betray the Kurds who defeated ISIS. All of them have blood on their hands and stained the future integrity of the word of the US. titansfb, IsntLifeFunny, 9 Nines, and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetroleroTitanico Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, ctm said: FIFY And that includes Senators, congressmen, republicans, those who voted for him and posters right here who continue to defend and support Trump. This whole group created this corrupt mess in Washington and enabled Trump to betray the Kurds who defeated ISIS. All of them have blood on their hands and stained the future integrity of the word of the US. Not to mention weakened US leadership among nations in terms of diplomacy, trade and military alliances. Treasonous ctm, reo, and Omar 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, ctm said: FIFY And that includes Senators, congressmen, republicans, those who voted for him and posters right here who continue to defend and support Trump. This whole group created this corrupt mess in Washington and enabled Trump to betray the Kurds who defeated ISIS. All of them have blood on their hands and stained the future integrity of the word of the US. It's not just betraying the Kurds. Its surrendering our position in the region. Turkey and Russia are stamping out US allies. This gives control to Turkey, Assad, Iran and Russia. Omar, and PetroleroTitanico 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ctm Posted October 18, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Trump supporters here know this is a major, major fuck up. That's why they aren't in here trying to defend him. There is no defense. It's obvious Trump sold us out to the Russians. reo, tgo, IsntLifeFunny, and 7 others 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OILERMAN Posted October 18, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 All roads lead to Russia MadMax, PetroleroTitanico, Justafan, and 6 others 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post reo Posted October 18, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 In case people forgot, this started bc the people of Syria stood up to the dictator that is Asead. US softly backed the rebels. Russia and Iran backed Assad. Extremists came in a coopted the fight against Assad. And it sort or ended up a 3 way war with the US getting the Kurds to help, promising to help prevent Turkey from taking the chance to attack if the Kurds mobilized against the extremists. We've now betrayed the Kurds and opened the way for Iran and Russia to help Assad crush the rebels and solidify control in the region. We will now have little to no footprint in the region. Kurds will hate us. Their extremists will quite possibly target us. Iran and Russia are now more powerful and we'll have a very hard time getting anyone else to trust us in the region. Make no mistake. This is a huge gift to Putin. oldschool, OILERMAN, IsntLifeFunny, and 6 others 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IsntLifeFunny Posted October 18, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, reo said: In case people forgot, this started bc the people of Syria stood up to the dictator that is Asead. US softly backed the rebels. Russia and Iran backed Assad. Extremists came in a coopted the fight against Assad. And it sort or ended up a 3 way war with the US getting the Kurds to help, promising to help prevent Turkey from taking the chance to attack if the Kurds mobilized against the extremists. We've now betrayed the Kurds and opened the way for Iran and Russia to help Assad crush the rebels and solidify control in the region. We will now have little to no footprint in the region. Kurds will hate us. Their extremists will quite possibly target us. Iran and Russia are now more powerful and we'll have a very hard time getting anyone else to trust us in the region. Make no mistake. This is a huge gift to Putin. Even for people who don’t keep up with this it is easy to understand unless you’re completely brainwashed. You never leave your dead, your injured, or your ally. You don’t do it for a ton or reasons. We had 50 troops on that border. 50. Those 50 troops kept the peace. Any notion that Trump just wants to bring home the troops is immediately incorrect since he’s sending more troops to Saudi Arabia than we had in Syria. The situation is FUBAR. Anyone who can’t see that is an idiot. reo, tgo, Omar, and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: All roads lead to Russia Speaking of the devil, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Pelosi was right. Repubs, this Russian shit ain’t funny anymore. reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 9 hours ago, OILERMAN said: All roads lead to Russia Russia will take Ukraine next. It's just a matter of when. MadMax, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, ctm said: Russia will take Ukraine next. It's just a matter of when. Trump isn't even hiding it now, whatever Russia wants Russia gets. What are the Republicans gonna do about it TitanDuckFan, and MadMax 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Trump isn't even hiding it now, whatever Russia wants Russia gets. What are the Republicans gonna do about it Washington is just like this message board.....for the most part they are going to shut up in disgrace and hope he'll stop but their behavior won't change. They'll still vote for him. Edited October 18, 2019 by ctm MadMax, and IsntLifeFunny 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, ctm said: Washington is just like this message board.....for the most part they are going to shut up in disgrace and hope he'll stop but their behavior won't change. They'll still vote for him. True story..... I was talking to a co-worker who's a Trump supporter about the rally in Dallas last night. I was saying those people are crazy, don't care etc....... During the conversation he openly said there was something fishy going on with Trump and Russia, he also said what Trump did to the Kurds was horrible. Without blinking he said it didn't affect his support for Trump. IsntLifeFunny, begooode, MadMax, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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