tgo Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, Titans279 said: There’s a difference between voting for Biden because you hate Trump and voting for Biden because you love Biden. Most people right now are motivated most by beating Trump. I don't know about "most" people, but I know for a fact that black people love Biden, that suburban women love Biden, and that a good many other people actually really like Biden and aren't simply voting against Trump. Yes, the Bernie people and some others are only voting against Trump, but the idea of him being a bridge to future generations of leaders as he has been reiterating lately does have appeal even among progressives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 3/25/2020 at 6:38 PM, begooode said: I wouldn’t say no one wants Joe. The problem with Biden bros is the classic ‘born on third base, thinking they’ve hit a homerun’ scenario. WG53 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, begooode said: Wrong, again. Never go full cheerleader and learn how to be an informed 'winner'. Or at least don't work on variance analysis at work, if you can't properly identify drivers. For myself, I am winning -- Trump should be gone. As I said, Bernie worried me a great deal. But I'll understand and embrace why 2020 played out like it does. And it sure won't be because Biden is some historically great candidate, at least this time around. 2020 played out like it did because Biden attracts a diverse coalition of voters and pulled in a bunch of the blue collar people that refused to vote for Hillary and who voted for Bernie in 2016. WG53 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, tgo said: the idea of him being a bridge to future generations of leaders as he has been reiterating lately does have appeal even among progressives. Citation needed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, tgo said: 2020 played out like it did because Biden attracts a diverse coalition of voters and pulled in a bunch of the blue collar people that refused to vote for Hillary and who voted for Bernie in 2016. wrong again. that narrative failed mightily in Nevada or at least it wasn't compelling enough. 2020 will play out only because the other moderates dropped out and overwhelmingly endorsed Biden -- partying on the stage. EVERY pundit said they had never seen such swing. now you are projecting -- Biden had it all the time! Bullshit. If you need a proof point go back and look at your posts at the time, including conceding that Biden was coming up short. But now it's Bidenz da MANZ. Go sell that revisionist history somewhere else. Starkiller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, begooode said: On 3/25/2020 at 5:38 PM, begooode said: I wouldn’t say no one wants Joe. The problem with Biden bros is the classic ‘born on third base, thinking they’ve hit a homerun’ scenario. The whole point is supporting someone who can and will win. "Born on third base thinking they've hit a homerun" - what are you talking about? Because people support the guy who had the power, gravitas, political appeal to win rather than someone who it would've taken a miracle "homerun" to win the primary - like Harris or Booker or Buttigieg or Klobuchar or whoever? The only way to wield power to enact an agenda is to actually win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Titans279 said: Citation needed https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/09/politics/joe-biden-bridge-new-generation-of-leaders/index.html "Look, I view myself as a bridge, not as anything else," Biden said. "There's an entire generation of leaders you saw stand behind me. They are the future of this country." luvyablue256, rns90, and pamo9 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) "thanks Clyburn, but I got this!" "thanks candidates for dropping out and joining me on stage to rally against Bernie, but I got this!" *Things Biden would never say, but now his supporters can now safely project, after sweating through 'awesome' Biden performances* pushups!! Edited March 30, 2020 by begooode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said: It’s going to really piss me off when 100s of thousands of Americans die and these fucks still refuse to get Trump’s taint out of their mouth. Didn't you listen to Trump yesterday. if 100K Americans die he is going to claim it would have been 2.2M if not for the actions he took. He's already started laying the ground work Edited March 30, 2020 by oldschool IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 I've not sure why there are any complaints about Biden NOW, given the shit show we are currently seeing now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, begooode said: wrong again. that narrative failed mightily in Nevada or at least it wasn't compelling enough. 2020 will play out only because the other moderates dropped out and overwhelmingly endorsed Biden -- partying on the stage. EVERY pundit said they had never seen such swing. now you are projecting -- Biden had it all the time! Bullshit. If you need a proof point go back and look at your posts at the time, including conceding that Biden was coming up short. But now it's Bidenz da MANZ. Go sell that revisionist history somewhere else. Nevada? Who gives two shits about Nevada? Nevada has proven to be totally meaningless both this cycle and in 2016. Biden finished second in Nevada behind Bernie anyway, and then won South Carolina, which is why the other candidates had to drop out - BECAUSE THEY HAD NO PATH TO VICTORY BECAUSE BIDEN DEFEATED THEM. I never said "Biden had it all the time" and am not insinuating it now, but I did say repeatedly that if Biden finished second in Nevada and won South Carolina then he would likely win, I said this repeatedly to my friends as well. That's just political reality. Biden was favored in South Carolina since last April when he announced. Anyway, I'm not going to continue this pointless back and forth with you since you clearly have demonstrated your lack of political understanding repeatedly throughout this process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, begooode said: wrong again. that narrative failed mightily in Nevada or at least it wasn't compelling enough. 2020 will play out only because the other moderates dropped out and overwhelmingly endorsed Biden -- partying on the stage. EVERY pundit said they had never seen such swing. now you are projecting -- Biden had it all the time! Bullshit. If you need a proof point go back and look at your posts at the time, including conceding that Biden was coming up short. But now it's Bidenz da MANZ. Go sell that revisionist history somewhere else. Nevada is a caucus state. Find another example as caucuses favors extremists like most of the bernie bros. tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, NeverEnough said: So he's a bridge to AOC and Tlaib? Wow. Ppl must feel much more comfortable knowing that..... No - he's a bridge to Buttigieg, Harris, Whitmer, Abrams, etc. Tlaib is probably (hopefully) going to get defeated this year anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, tgo said: No - he's a bridge to Buttigieg, Harris, Whitmer, Abrams, etc. Vote for me! I'm a bridge. A really awesome one!! Who's not Trump or Bernie!! yes, indeed, an outstanding candidate WG53 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, begooode said: "thanks Clyburn, but I got this!" "thanks candidates for dropping out and joining me on stage to rally against Bernie!" *Things Biden would never say, but now his supporters can now safely project, after sweating through 'awesome' Biden performances* pushups!! Heh. Interesting anecdote that Clyburn told over the weekend - after the endorsement event, Clyburn was rushing to his SUV to get to the airport to get back to DC and Biden was running after him trying to get his attention, with tears running down his cheeks to thank him. (because he knew that Clyburn's endorsement would effectively deliver him the nomination because the sheer margin of victory would be a death knell to the other candidates that they couldn't recover from) Clyburn's endorsement was heartfelt and powerful too, showing some tears of his own due to his late wife's admiration for Biden and Clyburn's longstanding deep friendship with Biden. Anyway, like I said, luckily for Biden he had built a strong relationship with Clyburn over the past few decades and had Clyburn's daughter working for him after knowing the family so well. This is how politics works when you're doing it right. Edited March 30, 2020 by tgo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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