Btowner Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 By the way, has anyone seen any estimated completion date for this wall? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Btowner said: By the way, has anyone seen any estimated completion date for this wall? Trump will be behind a different wall once completed. pamo9, MadMax, ctm, and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, ctm said: There is a separation of powers constitutional issue involved if money is transferred. Congress has the power of the purse. They do. As I said the National Security Act has become very expansive. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see it pass the Supreme Court. Either way they need to get rid of that law. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, scine09 said: Trump will be behind a different wall once completed. Steel slats... scine09 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: This isn’t exactly true. The National Emergency Act after it was changed in the court became very expansive. It’s a law that needs to be repealed and replaced. If he could do it - he’d have done it. The only reason he doesn’t is because he knows it won’t work Edited January 12, 2019 by Pragidealist reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Pragidealist said: If he could do it - he’d have done it. The only reason he doesn’t is because he knows it won’t work Maybe. I think he knows it would be the end of his political capital and it wouldn’t be a guarantee. I’m not saying it would definitely get through. I’m saying I’ve read quite a few legitimate sources and scholars who think it would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 7 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Maybe. I think he knows it would be the end of his political capital and it wouldn’t be a guarantee. I’m not saying it would definitely get through. I’m saying I’ve read quite a few legitimate sources and scholars who think it would. What political capital?!? OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jamalisms Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 8:14 AM, TitansFan777 said: The 2020 election will be brutal if/when he runs. I could see a 1984/1972/1964 landslide. You have way more faith in the American electorate than I do. Legaltitan, Justafan, and MadMax 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 John Tester is legit. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, begooode said: John Tester is legit. The best part is he’s a good ole boy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) On 1/11/2019 at 6:49 PM, IsntLifeFunny said: They do. As I said the National Security Act has become very expansive. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see it pass the Supreme Court. Either way they need to get rid of that law. Go to court and using his own words. The first question. Was this a campaign promise or national security issue? Based on your own tweet it looks like a campaign promise that does not match the data from your DHS and Border Patrol reports. Edited January 13, 2019 by Btowner IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/10/2019 at 7:18 PM, Starkiller said: It will hurt both sides, but it won’t hurt both sides equally. Trump said he would take the blame for the shutdown beforehand. And Trump is unpopular, so it’s that much easier to blame him. That makes it easy for Democrats to spin it that way. Republicans are always going to blame Dems and Dems are always going to blame Republicans. But the independents seem to be blaming Trump. https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/americans-blame-trump-and-gop-much-more-than-democrats-for-shutdown-post-abc-poll-finds/2019/01/12/9c89aff2-16a9-11e9-90a8-136fa44b80ba_story.html By a wide margin, more Americans blame President Trump and Republicans in Congress than congressional Democrats for the now record-breaking government shutdown, and most reject the president’s assertion that there is an illegal-immigration crisis on the southern border, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll. Concerning the allocation of blame, 53 percent say Trump and the Republicans are mainly at fault, and 29 percent blame the Democrats in Congress. Thirteen percent say both sides bear equal responsibility for the shutdown. That is identical to the end of the 16-day shutdown in 2013, when 29 percent blamed then-President Barack Obama and 53 percent put the responsibility on congressional Republicans. A predictable partisan divide shapes the blame game, with 85 percent of Democrats citing Trump and Republicans as the cause and 68 percent of Republicans pointing the finger at congressional Democrats. Independents fix the blame squarely on the president and his party rather than on the Democrats, by 53 percent to 23 percent. Women blame Trump and Republicans by a margin of 35 points, and men blame the president and the GOP by 13 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 CNN released a poll with similar numbers https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/13/politics/cnn-poll-shutdown-trump/index.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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