BobbyCoins Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Supdawg said: Tether FUD RIP How much FUD did/does Tether actually have? It's traded for pretty much $1, give or take some fractional pocket change, for 6 years. What was this settlement about and why is Tether considered "controversial"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyCoins Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, patsplat said: Yes, it is engineered to be the perfect commodity. It's quite an anti-social investment and you will be welcome to mock me for that hypocrisy. What's anti-social about it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: What's anti-social about it? It enables money laundering and terrorism titanruss, and Jamalisms 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supdawg Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: How much FUD did/does Tether actually have? It's traded for pretty much $1, give or take some fractional pocket change, for 6 years. What was this settlement about and why is Tether considered "controversial"? The Tether FUD was spread because there was great speculation online that Tethers (aka stable coins pegged to US $) was backed by nothing and Tethers were being minted to inflate the price of BTC. Here's a good article discussing it. https://cryptocurrencyfacts.com/2018/01/29/how-to-understand-the-tether-fud-and-conspiracy-theories/ According to CMC, there are 34B Tethers out there https://coinmarketcap.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyCoins Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, patsplat said: It enables money laundering and terrorism So does fiat money. Some would argue far more so. Supdawg, and Bongo59 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, patsplat said: It enables money laundering and terrorism As well as other illegal activity such as drug sales and prostitution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, NashvilleNinja said: So does fiat money. Some would argue far more so. "Enabling" might not be the right word. I would say bitcoin makes it harder to get caught since it's not really traceable. pat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyCoins Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, abenjami said: "Enabling" might not be the right word. I would say bitcoin makes it harder to get caught since it's not really traceable. But if it's all listed in the blockchain ledger is it really any less traceable than the mountains of paper money Pablo Escobar had buried/hidden in his many bungalows? I'm admittedly just learning about this, but it seems like funding illicit activity with crypto would lead to a higher probability of being caught than funding it with a 100% network-atheist currency like physical paper. pat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: But if it's all listed in the blockchain ledger is it really any less traceable than the mountains of paper money Pablo Escobar had buried/hidden in his many bungalows? I'm admittedly just learning about this, but it seems like funding illicit activity with crypto would lead to a higher probability of being caught than funding it with a 100% network-atheist currency like physical paper. It's a lot easier to move say $10 million in bitcoin than it is to move a $10 million pile of paper bills. Especially across international borders. The blockchain legder could be used to trace the payment to the public key it came from, but no one knows who owns that key. pat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said: How much FUD did/does Tether actually have? It's traded for pretty much $1, give or take some fractional pocket change, for 6 years. As I understand it, it is designed to trade at $1, being a bridge between other cryptocurrencies and stationary unit of money to transact - i.e., one converts a fluctuating cryptocurrency to Tether at the that converted cryptocurrency's US dollar value at that point in time, then transact in Tether to buy something. 2 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said: How much FUD did/does Tether actually have? It's traded for pretty much $1, give or take some fractional pocket change, for 6 years. What was this settlement about and why is Tether considered "controversial"? I am not sure about the settlement. The controversy is: First part) Tether claimed that each Tether is backed by one US dollar, and it has been shown that claim is false. First the company(ies) controlling Tether claimed all Tethers are fully backed by a US dollars, then later admitted only 80% and I think the admitted percentage has fallen more and more. Some experts, using analyses, suggest few to no Tethers are backed by US dollars, and that it is a pyramid scheme. Second part) every time Tether has had a large issue of Tether units, that were claimed to be backed by US dollars when they were not to some degree to not at all, Bitcoin surged right afterwards. Since Tether, Bitcoins upward moves, after a few days of lag, were linked directly to Tether issues, and the size of the Bitcoin moves were linked to the size of the Tether issues. Third part) the lower Tether is backed by US dollar, the lower the demand for Bitcoin, that caused its surges, are backed by real currency purchases. The hypothesis is that non-backed Tethers are what fueled the demand that pushed Bitcoin in each of its major rises. Which if true, means Bitcoin will fall to near nothing, once the pyramid scheme, if that is the case, falls. Edited February 23, 2021 by 9 Nines Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) Man...oh...man: Shares in Iced-Tea-Maker-Turned-Blockchain-Firm Delisted by SEC Long Blockchain Corporation, the former beverage company whose sudden pivot to crypto captured Wall Street’s attention (and Nasdaq’s ire) during the 2017 bull run saw its shares delisted by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) Monday after failing to file financial documents. When the company formerly known as Long Island Iced Tea Corp. rechristened itself “Long Blockchain Corp in December 2017, investors responded by pouring into its shares, spiking the value by over 500%.’ Never mind the fact that Long Blockchain Corp. initiated its rebranding without explaining exactly how it would embrace blockchain technology or move away from summertime beverages. A subsequent effort to buy bitcoin miners was abandoned in less than a month, setting the stage for Nasdaq to nix trading and relegating LBCC to the OTC markets. Edited February 23, 2021 by 9 Nines Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilerTitanHybrid Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 Breaking TR news! Sources close to TR have found out that Bitcoin is being run by Bernie Madoff, from his comfy Fed prison cell! His name on the TR message board: Bongo59 !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans_Win_Again Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said: How much FUD did/does Tether actually have? It's traded for pretty much $1, give or take some fractional pocket change, for 6 years. What was this settlement about and why is Tether considered "controversial"? There were periods in 2018 were USDT traded around 90 cents for extended periods and even dropped to something like 60 cents because FUD scared so many people into dumping it. Supdawg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyCoins Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, abenjami said: It's a lot easier to move say $10 million in bitcoin than it is to move a $10 million pile of paper bills. Especially across international borders. The blockchain legder could be used to trace the payment to the public key it came from, but no one knows who owns that key. Wouldn't you say the inconvenience of moving millions of dollars in piles of paper cuts both ways? Sure it's inconvenient to move under the noses of authorities, but I imagine it's just as inconvenient to move it under the noses of cartel leaders. Maybe those cartel leaders like having that inconvenience attached as a back-handed form of security against large-scale theft. Plus, would you really want to trust anyone else with those private keys? And would you really trust the men around you if they knew you were the one who held said private keys? Move all that coin onto little hardware wallets that fit in your pocket and you strip away many different layers of native insulation. The feat of theft gets incredibly small while the economy of theft grows incredibly large in that scenario. Regardless, black markets have existed ever since man became aware of other's insatiable appetites. Fiat money has been exploited in the worst ways imaginable to fund illicit activity for as long as it's been around. It wasn't abandoned just because criminals found ways to use it for their own purposes. Blockchain and crypto are just the latest thing in human history to potentially be exploited and/or abused. I don't get how the potential or existence of black market use is a strong argument against crypto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: Wouldn't you say the inconvenience of moving millions of dollars in piles of paper cuts both ways? Sure it's inconvenient to move under the noses of authorities, but I imagine it's just as inconvenient to move it under the noses of cartel leaders. Maybe those cartel leaders like having that inconvenience attached as a back-handed form of security against large-scale theft. Plus, would you really want to trust anyone else with those private keys? And would you really trust the men around you if they knew you were the one who held said private keys? Move all that coin onto little hardware wallets that fit in your pocket and you strip away many different layers of native insulation. The feat of theft gets incredibly small while the economy of theft grows incredibly large in that scenario. Regardless, black markets have existed ever since man became aware of other's insatiable appetites. Fiat money has been exploited in the worst ways imaginable to fund illicit activity for as long as it's been around. It wasn't abandoned just because criminals found ways to use it for their own purposes. Blockchain and crypto are just the latest thing in human history to potentially be exploited and/or abused. I don't get how the potential or existence of black market use is a strong argument against crypto. I don't think you understand how the keys work. There are two types of keys - public and private. It's not a problem to trust anyone with your public keys. That is how you receive payments. You give someone your public key and they send their bitcoins to it. Think of the public key like an address where you receive your payments, only no one knows who owns that address. There's no post office, bank, social security number, or any other kind of identifying information tying you to it in the public domain. Only you have your private keys and you don't share them with anyone. That is how you secure the payments you receive. Edited February 23, 2021 by abenjami Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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