Btowner Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, ben4titans said: It is a criminal action to illegally cross our border. Period. That's the law. Don't like it, change it. The Dems won't do it though because they don't want protections for the American people. So, with Republicans in control of the house, Senate and WH, the Dems won't do it? Mighty funny tax reform passed, but on this topic, the Dems are the road block. Jake's and your blind loyalty to Trump is like a Remora attached to a shark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/ There is no federal law mandating children and parents be separated at the border; a policy resulting in that outcome was enacted in May 2018. The rumors correctly suggested that “family detention” as a whole came before the Trump administration, but as of August 2015 intact families at the border were rarely separated. Other iterations of the rumor held that the Obama administration separated more children from their parents than the Trump administration, a claim stemming from an inaccurate retelling of the fact that an influx of unaccompanied minors from Latin America crossed the border in from 2014 onward. In those instances, minor children primarily traveled without their parents. Claims that the “law to separate families” was passed in 1997, those claims originated with a February 2018 Department of Homeland Security statement referencing “[l]egal loopholes [that] are exploited by minors, family units, and human smugglers.” The DHS statement claimed existing immigration policies “create a pull factor that invites more illegal immigration and encourages parents to pay and entrust their children to criminal organizations.” However, neither the 1997 Flores settlement nor a 2008 human trafficking law cited in that release in any way stipulated that the government separate children from their parents A cluster of rumors about the controversial separation of families at the border held that the policy came before the Trump administration, either stemming from a 1997 “law” or purported policies of previous administrations. Those claims were false. No federal law required or suggested the family separation policy announced by Attorney General Sessions in several sets of remarks during April and May 2018. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 The mid-terms are a little over 4 months away. The tax cuts didn't produce the magic economic boom. There are no trade deals. Locking up the brown kids is all that's left to get the sheep out to vote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 hour ago, ben4titans said: Ahh, now the truth comes out. If the Dems think this is true, they have no reason to make a deal. They will keep yelling till they get exactly what they want. Which is completely open borders amnesty. I don't disagree with this at all, you are probably right. But their plan will work, people are horrified by this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 When a freedom caucus OG like Meadows breaks ranks, then maybe it wasn’t such a good idea: The Meadows bill is the latest sign that Republicans across the spectrum are eager to find a quick legislative fix to stanch the bipartisan uproar amid images of young children being housed in detention facilities along the southern border with Mexico. But the party is badly divided on how to respond -- and whether Trump should just fix the matter himself. "The President's agenda of cracking down on illegal immigration is critical, and yet many of us, including the President, agree: there is a better way to solve the complications of illegal immigration proceedings than separating children from their parents at the border," Meadows said in an email to CNN. "We need to better enforce our immigration laws, but we can do so while keeping parents and children together." Meadows's proposal would bar children apprehended at the border with their parents from being separated while they are in DHS custody and is similar to provisions in two other House bills, but Meadows's bill is more targeted and would not include border funding or address what to do with recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which Trump ended but is in legal limbo in the court system. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/18/politics/mark-meadows-immigration-congress-republican-trump-allies/index.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pat Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 Listen to the whole video before posting another BS excuse. I'm nauseous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 Set an arbitrary limit on when kids are separated. The solution isn’t a tough one when it comes to this particular issue. Only idiots conflate the issue being discussed. Let’s say 12. There we go. All 12 year olds will be housed separately. I think that’s a terrible strategy, but it’s better than the one we have now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said: What do you expect them to say? What is your alternative? What should we do for illegals that cross? You want them all housed in the same center? Or set them free? What is your solution? Did you listen to the whole video? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 Where was I? Donating to Central American Legal Assistance, National Lawyers Guild, and Doctors Without Borders. What’s the alternative? Treat people like human beings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 As unbelievable as it may be, some folks have values beyond a fuming contempt for others. You need help @JakePA_Titan and not from a message board. Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 There is no easy solution. No one said there was one. That’s the fallacy here. An easy fix to this problem is to stop taking children, especially young ones, away from their parents. Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 28 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: There is no easy solution. No one said there was one. That’s the fallacy here. An easy fix to this problem is to stop taking children, especially young ones, away from their parents. The fix is for the families wanting to enter --- do so legally... SoylentGreen 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, thor said: The fix is for the families wanting to enter --- do so legally... You don’t know what you are talking about. ctm, OILERMAN, IsntLifeFunny, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 All these alleged “children” are just crisis actors!!! Mythos27, IsntLifeFunny, and Justafan 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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