Diabolical

[Starkiller]

1 hour ago, SleepingTitan said:

People are inherently evil. We are humans, nasty animals with base instincts to procreate, feed ourselves, and survive. Anything outside of that is a striving, a conscious effort to be something greater than ourselves. It's that striving that make a person good, but he can never, as a person, reach the actual goal. 

 

"People often say that motivation doesn't last. Neither does bathing. That's why we recommend it daily." - Zig Ziglar

There’s a huge difference between an innate survival instinct and inherent evil…

[SleepingTitan]

43 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

There’s a huge difference between an innate survival instinct and inherent evil…

We certainly like to believe so. I'd argue that the line is thinner than most people realize, and that mostly we are products of circumstance until we rise above it. But we can never escape it. 

 

Edit: We would all like to believe we wouldn't shoot "Viet Cong" from a heli for sport like they do in Full Metal Jacket, but we've never been pushed there. We'd all like to believe we would never rob a liquor store at gunpoint -- but do we really know? If we haven't been pushed so far down from our highest reaching to be more than an animal?

Edited Friday at 01:45 AM by SleepingTitan

[OILERMAN]

1 hour ago, Starkiller said:

There’s a huge difference between an innate survival instinct and inherent evil…

 

You poor poor sucker

[Starkiller]

Some people are sociopaths. Some people are more violent than others. Some people enjoy inflicting pain while others do not. Some people are more selfish than others.

 

Not everyone is the same. 
 

Perhaps the problem is that people who are inherently evil just assume that everyone else is just like them…

[Callidus]

57 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

Some people are sociopaths. Some people are more violent than others. Some people enjoy inflicting pain while others do not. Some people are more selfish than others.

 

Not everyone is the same. 
 

Perhaps the problem is that people who are inherently evil just assume that everyone else is just like them…

If I had to guess sleepingtitan beats puppies to death with a hammer at birthday parties and doesn't understand why the children cry.

[NashvilleNinja]

32 minutes ago, Callidus said:

If I had to guess sleepingtitan beats puppies to death with a hammer at birthday parties and doesn't understand why the children cry.

 

Where as Oman does the same thing but does understand. And he likes it.

[SleepingTitan]

12 hours ago, Callidus said:

If I had to guess sleepingtitan beats puppies to death with a hammer at birthday parties and doesn't understand why the children cry.

Or was I one of the kids crying?

 

I envy optimists and pessimists. They always know what's coming. I'm not the guy who says the glass is half full or empty. I measure the fucking water. 

[Callidus]

46 minutes ago, SleepingTitan said:

Or was I one of the kids crying?

 

I envy optimists and pessimists. They always know what's coming. I'm not the guy who says the glass is half full or empty. I measure the fucking water. 

I try and be as pragmatic as possible myself, doesn't always work though. Sometimes you have to throw it to the wind when speaking to idiots. 

[NashvilleNinja]

4 hours ago, SleepingTitan said:

Or was I one of the kids crying?

 

I envy optimists and pessimists. They always know what's coming. I'm not the guy who says the glass is half full or empty. I measure the fucking water. 

 

So... you're not the guy who measures whether the glass is half full or half empty. You're the guy who measures whether the glass is half full or half empty?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[XAEA12]

On 9/3/2026 at 11:31 PM, Callidus said:

If I had to guess sleepingtitan beats puppies to death with a hammer at birthday parties and doesn't understand why the children cry.

 

No way. He sits in a chair in the corner and watches someone else do it, gratified but lamenting that circumstances drove him to this

 

Edited Saturday at 05:50 PM by XAEA12

[Callidus]

51 minutes ago, XAEA12 said:

 

No way. He sits in a chair in the corner and watches someone else do it, gratified but lamenting that circumstances drive him to this

 

A puppy murder cuck is a new low I was not expecting to see discussed today. 

Edited Saturday at 05:37 PM by Callidus

[OnsideKick]

 

[MadMax]

11 hours ago, Callidus said:

A puppy murder cuck is a new low I was not expecting to see discussed today. 

New to this place?

 

I know you're not but dayaum.

[titanruss]

On 9/3/2026 at 6:43 PM, SleepingTitan said:

People are inherently evil. We are humans, nasty animals with base instincts to procreate, feed ourselves, and survive. Anything outside of that is a striving, a conscious effort to be something greater than ourselves. It's that striving that make a person good, but he can never, as a person, reach the actual goal. 

Ayn Rand and your quoting leaves too many questions that you must think about rather than letting a 100 year old capitalist extremist novel answer for you. Like... 

 

If you can never reach the good than you can never reach the bad. But then - is there even a good or evil? Life just IS for most philosophers. Clarifying us as "nasty" is a value judgement against... what? un nasty? what is "un nasty" Pure? What is "pure"? 

 

Humans and existence aren't good nor bad. Evolution is the process for advancing towards a goal that we don't know for what/where/when/for/which we are striving. We, as earth animals, have figured out over billions of years that working together benefits more than as individuals. Sometimes, selfishness wins in the evolutionary battle. But mostly, it loses - that why  society evolved. For life contentment and happiness, selfishness loses. in every study, like, ever.. - at least for the majority that are capable of a full emotional range. 

 

As far as that selfishness... There are many people that don't care about spreading their seed or surviving, that only want to help others. What is the evolutionary purpose in that? Just to feel good for zero reason? They already lost! Their seed and progress never caught on! All other energy use towards them feeling OK is wasted, right?!?!  Of course not... 

 

And to end, for humans to be unique in their morality, then you must believe humans are special. So we must have been created to be unique from the animals; and so seemingly moral acts among animals must be mere curiosities - glitches in the matrix. Yet kind acts of animals towards other species occurs all the time. 

 

No, your better argument would be one devoid of value - after all, we all are just slaves to our innate survival instincts, yes?

[Callidus]

7 hours ago, titanruss said:

Ayn Rand and your quoting leaves too many questions that you must think about rather than letting a 100 year old capitalist extremist novel answer for you. Like... 

 

If you can never reach the good than you can never reach the bad. But then - is there even a good or evil? Life just IS for most philosophers. Clarifying us as "nasty" is a value judgement against... what? un nasty? what is "un nasty" Pure? What is "pure"? 

 

Humans and existence aren't good nor bad. Evolution is the process for advancing towards a goal that we don't know for what/where/when/for/which we are striving. We, as earth animals, have figured out over billions of years that working together benefits more than as individuals. Sometimes, selfishness wins in the evolutionary battle. But mostly, it loses - that why  society evolved. For life contentment and happiness, selfishness loses. in every study, like, ever.. - at least for the majority that are capable of a full emotional range. 

 

As far as that selfishness... There are many people that don't care about spreading their seed or surviving, that only want to help others. What is the evolutionary purpose in that? Just to feel good for zero reason? They already lost! Their seed and progress never caught on! All other energy use towards them feeling OK is wasted, right?!?!  Of course not... 

 

And to end, for humans to be unique in their morality, then you must believe humans are special. So we must have been created to be unique from the animals; and so seemingly moral acts among animals must be mere curiosities - glitches in the matrix. Yet kind acts of animals towards other species occurs all the time. 

 

No, your better argument would be one devoid of value - after all, we all are just slaves to our innate survival instincts, yes?

Outside the implication that evolution has some kind of plan this is pretty good.