Around the NFL Week 17

[AussieTitanFan08]

6 minutes ago, Face said:

Travis Jones is also playing like a stud. If we weren’t set at the interior I’d be all over him in FA this offseason.

 

Already signed an extension with the Ravens.

[Face]

23 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

Already signed an extension with the Ravens.

Jesus you’re right. Missed it. Doesn’t matter, we don’t need the position but man it seems harder to rebuild than ever. Especially on the FA front. Real game changers just rarely hit UFA anymore.

[Callidus]

52 minutes ago, Face said:

Jesus you’re right. Missed it. Doesn’t matter, we don’t need the position but man it seems harder to rebuild than ever. Especially on the FA front. Real game changers just rarely hit UFA anymore.

Ya, they need to remove comp picks from the draft and fix the salary cap so teams with unlimited cash cant just keep extending players and adding void years to circumvent he cap. 

 

Not sure what they would do exactly. Make it so the deals have to have even cap hits every year and ban void years? Would make it so teams would actualy need cap space in the year they sign a player. 

[OzTitan]

The cap had much more teeth to it before void years became a common thing. And also before carry over was a thing, which I think was introduced around 2012 or so, and was sort of the catalyst for abusing void years (since you now have more control over how much room you have in future years when contracts void and prorated signing bonus cap hits occur).

[OILERMAN]

I'm going to give Henry some credit for the game last night. Although the run blocking was outstanding and the holes were massive Henry held on to the ball and had no turnovers. 

[OILERMAN]

 

[Face]

5 hours ago, Callidus said:

Ya, they need to remove comp picks from the draft and fix the salary cap so teams with unlimited cash cant just keep extending players and adding void years to circumvent he cap. 

 

Not sure what they would do exactly. Make it so the deals have to have even cap hits every year and ban void years? Would make it so teams would actualy need cap space in the year they sign a player. 

To be honest I’ve never been a cap guy, I don’t know the ins & out. But I’m assuming you @OzTitanare correct because there used to be real ramifications back in the day. You could absolutely go all in for a few years but teams that did that knew the ramifications & how bad it would get after 3 years or so. Teams that did this would get decimated. So there was that approach or the more moderate one. But you had to pick one.

 

[OILERMAN]

3 minutes ago, Face said:

To be honest I’ve never been a cap guy, I don’t know the ins & out. But I’m assuming you @OzTitanare correct because there used to be real ramifications back in the day. You could absolutely go all in for a few years but teams that did that knew the ramifications & how bad it would get after 3 years or so. Teams that did this would get decimated. So there was that approach or the more moderate one. But you had to pick one.

 

 

Oz is right, teams are too good with the cap now and it's much rarer for really good free agents to hit the market now. Teams can pretty much keep who they want and players on the market are usually flawed. 

 

It's much more important now to acquire picks and draft/develop

[oldschool]

LMAO. Buck needs a new job

 

 

[oldschool]

7 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

Oz is right, teams are too good with the cap now and it's much rarer for really good free agents to hit the market now. Teams can pretty much keep who they want and players on the market are usually flawed. 

 

It's much more important now to acquire picks and draft/develop

 

This is nothing new. @AussieTitanFan08 has been saying this ever since the new CBA went into effect. Many of us have said for years and years that good teams can manipulate the cap without going into cap hell.

[OILERMAN]

3 minutes ago, oldschool said:

LMAO. Buck needs a new job

 

 

 

The offensive staff Vrabel had at the time was a total joke. I don't think Willis would look nearly as good as he has with the Lafluer staff. 

[oldschool]

2 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

The offensive staff Vrabel had at the time was a total joke. I don't think Willis would look nearly as good as he has with the Lafluer staff. 

 

You know thats not what that clown is referring to..

[OILERMAN]

Just now, oldschool said:

 

You know thats not what that clown is referring to..

 

I think Buck is a moron regardless

[ctm]

18 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

This is nothing new. @AussieTitanFan08 has been saying this ever since the new CBA went into effect. Many of us have said for years and years that good teams can manipulate the cap without going into cap hell.

Yes the cap can be manipulated.  That's obvious.  But teams sometimes have to release players they want to keep or not sign existing players to extension in order to do so.

 

And btw, there 9 teams over the cap and another 5 teams over the effective cap in 2026.  There are going to be some good players released.  We haven't seen the final free agency list yet.

[oldschool]

1 minute ago, ctm said:

Yes the cap can be manipulated.  That's obvious.  But teams sometimes have to release players they want to keep or not sign existing players to extension in order to do so.

 

And btw, there 9 teams over the cap and another 5 teams over the effective cap in 2026.  There are going to be some good players released.  We haven't seen the final free agency list yet.

 

"Smart" Teams rarely have to do this because of the void year loop hole @OzTitan noted.