OILERMAN Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 10 hours ago, Jamalisms said: Anyone smart would pick McNair and not take another QB for a long while. If Henry is the first RB drafted, he'd go before the backup QB. I wasn't talking about building one team with Titan players. I was talking about if all the Titans ever were in a draft pool like the regular draft for 32 teams to pick from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 QBs are drafted for the projection they can be elite, which Tannehill certainly wasn't over his career. If NFL teams absolutely knew they were getting a mediocre QB, they wouldn't draft him high. Mid-round pick and well after a guaranteed elite RB. As ever, the conversation hinges not only on your laughable diminishment of Henry but on the even more delusional elevation of Tannehill. The only way Tannehill goes before Henry in a draft is if nobody has a roster to begin with, in which case there might not even be enough Titans QBs to go around and so obviously teams take anything they can get first. Tannehill isn't even the second QB drafted in this dumbass scenario anyway. Number9, and Bongo59 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 5 hours ago, OILERMAN said: I wasn't talking about building one team with Titan players. I was talking about if all the Titans ever were in a draft pool like the regular draft for 32 teams to pick from. right... but it's a shit premise. because you only have a few QBs. Before you get to absolute trash. It's a scramble just to be able to throw the ball at all. That says nothing of tannehill as a player at all. It just says that in general the QB is more important. Regardless of that..Across their careers total, guys that also played for the titans.... teams would pick McNair, hasselbeck NOD, KFC, and even Fitzpatrick over Tannehill. if you did every player in mfl history... Tannehill wouldn't even be an UDFA and Henry would be one of the first RBs taken and 100% a starter. in other words, in the most competitive situation, In a pool of all the players to ever play the game, Henry is miles above Tannehill on teams draft boards and it isn't even close. Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Henry will waltz into the hall of Fame likely on his first year of eligibility and Tannehill has already been forgotten by everyone in the football world outside of this board. There is no comparison. Forcing positional value into the conversation is just proof you know it's true. Positional value is only relevant when discussing team success not individual ability. Of all the retarded things I've seen said or insinuated I really hope no one here seriously thinks that Tannehill is a better QB than Henry is a RB. To even flirt with that opinion would be disqualifying from being taken seriously on any topic going forward. LongTimeFan, IsntLifeFunny, Number9, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 6 hours ago, OILERMAN said: You have to ignore positional value if you're going to make Henry into some kind of superhero. Guys like David Stewart and Finnegan, to name just a few, are more important because of positional value. Then you also have to ignore the fact he's a two down player. He only plays about half the snaps. He's on the bench when the Ravens are in comeback mode or in the 2:00 offense trying to win the game. It's very common for Henry to not lead the team in snaps at his own position in a game. Foreman isn't easily replacing Barkley or McCaffery. He's also scheme and blocking dependent much more than most. when he doesn't get good blocking he becomes very mediocre. It's why Mitchell has a higher success rate. What Henry is is one of the best RBs when he gets to the 2nd level unblocked. Cosell said "he needs a pathway". When he gets a clean hole that he can get going through he's going to do more with that than most RBs ever. How many of those running backs you mentioned as being better than Henry will make the hall of Fame? CreepingDeath 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 (edited) LOL at Donta Foreman easily replacing Henry. Half the production in several more games. LOL at Finnegan getting drafted ahead of Henry in this made up for tanny scenario. Edited January 2 by titanruss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, titanruss said: LOL at Donta Foreman easily replacing Henry. Half the production in more games. LOL at Finnegan getting drafted ahead of Henry in this made up for tanny scenario. Oman didn't say Finny, did he? Come on now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 15 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Oman didn't say Finny, did he? Come on now! Yep he did. Bottom of pg 41 IsntLifeFunny, and Number9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 9 hours ago, OILERMAN said: You have to ignore positional value if you're going to make Henry into some kind of superhero. Guys like David Stewart and Finnegan, to name just a few, are more important because of positional value. Then you also have to ignore the fact he's a two down player. He only plays about half the snaps. He's on the bench when the Ravens are in comeback mode or in the 2:00 offense trying to win the game. It's very common for Henry to not lead the team in snaps at his own position in a game. Foreman isn't easily replacing Barkley or McCaffery. He's also scheme and blocking dependent much more than most. when he doesn't get good blocking he becomes very mediocre. It's why Mitchell has a higher success rate. What Henry is is one of the best RBs when he gets to the 2nd level unblocked. Cosell said "he needs a pathway". When he gets a clean hole that he can get going through he's going to do more with that than most RBs ever. I tried to help you. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mythos27 Posted January 2 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Oman didn't say Finny, did he? Come on now! 1 hour ago, titanruss said: Yep he did. Bottom of pg 41 It's official. He has Henry Derangement Syndrome. You hate to see it lmao. Atlas, CreepingDeath, Jamalisms, and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 3 Author Report Share Posted January 3 7 hours ago, Mythos27 said: How many of those running backs you mentioned as being better than Henry will make the hall of Fame? McCaffery absolutely has a real shot to make the HOF, he could make his 3rd 1st all pro team this season, he could win offensive player of the year again this season and could become the 1st player to have 1k rushing and receiving 2 times in a career, it's only happened 3 times, once by him. He's had 2k yards from scrimmage 3 times with 15+ TDs in those 3 seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 3 Author Report Share Posted January 3 4 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Oman didn't say Finny, did he? Come on now! 100% a team would take a great man coverage CB over a 2 down RB. It's actually comical to think otherwise. I also said David Stewart. Do you realize 14 years ago Finnegan got a free agent contract way bigger than Henry has ever been paid? rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 29 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: 100% a team would take a great man coverage CB over a 2 down RB. It's actually comical to think otherwise. I also said David Stewart. Do you realize 14 years ago Finnegan got a free agent contract way bigger than Henry has ever been paid? RB just don’t get paid. Which is why you can rightly ding them for positionally value. FWIW, Simmons , Brown and Casey are probably better picks . Roos too . OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 3 Author Report Share Posted January 3 Just now, rns90 said: RB just don’t get paid. Which is why you can rightly ding them for positionally value. FWIW, Simmons , Brown and Casey are probably better picks . Roos too . Rolle, Mason, AJ Brown etc.... The list would be pretty long rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Gotta love how the conversation keeps trying to be changed as Henry plows Oman over and over. Now we are talking stupidly about an all Titans draft... because all a retarded argument has left is a positional value in an EXTREMELY limited pool. With now a random 32 GMs trying to build a team from a team they arent a part of... ok Wow thats dumb. Again. Stop being pussies and do a draft of all players ever. Henry gets drafted... very early for his position. Tannehill doesnt even make the combine and no scouts go to his proday. Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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