I believe Cam Ward will be a top level franchise/elite QB

[BudsOilers]

6 hours ago, titanruss said:

 

isnt he watching "food porn"  during that episode? He gets all excitede about Creme' Freche'

No - different episode.  That character has had the best career arc of all of them.

 

The episode where this thing comes from is a takeoff on the Grapes of Wrath and mocking people's addiction to the internet and porn.

Edited June 2, 2025 by BudsOilers

[NashvilleNinja]

There’s the window-dressing on Ward that gets you in the door. He’s a baller. He’s productive. He does a lot of things at a high level physically. But what his coaching staff does to him next is what Brian Callahan and company hopes will set him apart from the rest:

 

"...and either Mario (Cristobal), Shannon Dawson, somebody just looked over at the officials who you have working practice and told them ‘just call a hold. There wasn't one, but just call a hold. Let's just see what happens."

 

The Miami coaching staff was trying to push him mentally. They wanted to press his buttons in practice to see how he’d react in a game. Sometimes in football, like in life, you just get screwed over. How you react is what makes you a winner or a loser.

 

“He loses it for a second, because he knows good and well it was a bad call” Pate goes on. “But they just regroup, and they go score again, and then they call another phantom penalty to negate the score because they just want to see how he's going to react. And he loses it again, composes himself again. They go down there a third time. They call a third penalty on him. They re-rack it again, go down there, score.”

 

Cam was some combination of unphased and motivated by the injustice. It’s hard to say which is a more powerful element in his mind, but whatever it is, he makes it work. Not just in practice, but all over his college tape. It’s what his new NFL coaches saw in him that got them really juiced up.

 

https://atozsports.com/nfl/tennessee-titans-news/how-cam-wards-miami-coaches-would-push-his-buttons-to-test-him-mentally-and-why-his-response-is-what-makes-him-different/

 

[Number9]

On 5/29/2025 at 6:39 AM, scine09 said:

You and I both know what's going to happen there.  The Patriots have a relatively easy schedule.  The talent base is better.  So the record will be better, possibly significantly, and it will be attributed to Vrabel.

You actually don't think Vrabel is a good coach?

 

Again, he has the highest winning percentage of any TITANS HC.

He is recognized by the NFL media services/podcasters/writers to be a very good coach.

He is the only Titans HC to ever win COY.

 

The guy's a damn good football coach.  The best one we have had since Jeff Fisher.  

[Callidus]

2 hours ago, Number9 said:

You actually don't think Vrabel is a good coach?

 

Again, he has the highest winning percentage of any TITANS HC.

He is recognized by the NFL media services/podcasters/writers to be a very good coach.

He is the only Titans HC to ever win COY.

 

The guy's a damn good football coach.  The best one we have had since Jeff Fisher.  

Vrable is almost fisher with a different personality. They both were to conservative and couldnt adjust as time went on. Neither are bad coaches but you can only lean on talent so long once your tricks get old and you never come up with anything new. 

[Number9]

28 minutes ago, Callidus said:

Vrable is almost fisher with a different personality. They both were to conservative and couldnt adjust as time went on. Neither are bad coaches but you can only lean on talent so long once your tricks get old and you never come up with anything new. 

Mahomes.  Burrow.  That's all you need to know to understand why MV couldn't win those games.  I really think we had a shot in 19'.  Henry just gave out.  He had just played three tough games in a row to get them to the AFCCG.  In 21', Henry's foot was broke.  Tannehill couldn't run the kind of offense people seem to think Vrabel should have run.  Vrabel got max out of Tannehill.  

 

JRob did a wonderful job getting Tannehill.  But you don't get a Burrow or a Mahomes for a late pick plus the team paying part the QB's salary.  Plus, you have to look at the organizational support that was given JRob.  Look back and compare it to championship teams front office's resources.

 

We are what we are.  Every so often, we luck up.  Look at the Eagles.  Andy Reid is in the group with a handful of other coaches in this century.  The Eagles ran him out of town.  They won the SB this year.  This was their second trip to the SB with a 2nd round draft pick.  You just can't cheap up and cut corners then expect to win big.

 

They are trying to do better now.  But don't look at JRob and Mike Vrabel without looking at the whole picture.  

[scine09]

7 hours ago, Number9 said:

You actually don't think Vrabel is a good coach?

 

Again, he has the highest winning percentage of any TITANS HC.

He is recognized by the NFL media services/podcasters/writers to be a very good coach.

He is the only Titans HC to ever win COY.

 

The guy's a damn good football coach.  The best one we have had since Jeff Fisher.  

I literally said earlier in the thread that I think he's a good coach.

[Pragidealist]

32 minutes ago, scine09 said:

I literally said earlier in the thread that I think he's a good coach.

He’s only won 2 playoff games in his career as a coach. At best - the jury is still out 

[scine09]

2 minutes ago, Pragidealist said:

He’s only won 2 playoff games in his career as a coach. At best - the jury is still out 

My point is the media is treating him like he’s accomplished more than he has.

[Pragidealist]

8 hours ago, Number9 said:

You actually don't think Vrabel is a good coach?

 

Again, he has the highest winning percentage of any TITANS HC.

He is recognized by the NFL media services/podcasters/writers to be a very good coach.

He is the only Titans HC to ever win COY.

 

The guy's a damn good football coach.  The best one we have had since Jeff Fisher.  

2 playoff wins in 6 years is not close to the best Titans coach. 

[BudsOilers]

2-5 in win or go home games and once again the ONLY reason Vrabel has a .003 edge in regular season win % is because of Fisher's 1994 interim coach record after replacing Pardee mid-season.

 

And if one is not a retard, he deserves a lot more blame for the game plan in the NE playoff win.  They barely won the game because of the overly conservative offensive plan.

[BudsOilers]

8 hours ago, Number9 said:

Mahomes.  Burrow.  That's all you need to know to understand why MV couldn't win those games.  I really think we had a shot in 19'.  Henry just gave out.  He had just played three tough games in a row to get them to the AFCCG.  In 21', Henry's foot was broke.  Tannehill couldn't run the kind of offense people seem to think Vrabel should have run.  Vrabel got max out of Tannehill.  

 

JRob did a wonderful job getting Tannehill.  But you don't get a Burrow or a Mahomes for a late pick plus the team paying part the QB's salary.  Plus, you have to look at the organizational support that was given JRob.  Look back and compare it to championship teams front office's resources.

 

We are what we are.  Every so often, we luck up.  Look at the Eagles.  Andy Reid is in the group with a handful of other coaches in this century.  The Eagles ran him out of town.  They won the SB this year.  This was their second trip to the SB with a 2nd round draft pick.  You just can't cheap up and cut corners then expect to win big.

 

They are trying to do better now.  But don't look at JRob and Mike Vrabel without looking at the whole picture.  

The idea that AAS didn't give Robinson and Vrabel the resources and organization to succeed is one of your dumber takes and that's saying something.  LOL that your tard ass omits that Tannehill and his agent targeted the Titans, Robinson then wouldn't allow an open QB competition in 2019, and that Vrabel's record without Tannehill as his QB was horrific. 

 

One more thing - Robinson actually passed up drafting Mahomes because he had Mariota and drafted Corey Davis at 5 instead.  Hindsight's 20/20 but everyone on here knows Robinson never even bothered to scout QB's or even bother addressing QB until Tannehill came to them.

 

Also not really sure what your point is with the Eagles or Reid.....They fired Reid after a long tenure where they had not had a winning season in 3 years nor won a playoff game in 5 years.....Not to mention Philly had made 3 times the SB's (won 2 of them) and won as many playoff games with Pederson and Sirianni in 9 combined seasons as Reid did in his entire 14 year stint in Philly.  Even in KC, Reid was 1-4 in the playoffs prior to Mahomes....

 

 

[NashvilleNinja]

Robinson also drafted Jonnu Smith in the 3rd whereas Kittle went in the 5th. Also, he drafted Dez Fitzpatrick in the 4th instead of Amon-Ra St. Brown. That one is especially egregious considering we actually traded UP to draft Dez instead of Brown. Imagine that... he could have given Tannehill Amon-Ra to go along with AJ Brown. In the end, he failed to draft one and traded away the other one for a chronically injured Dollar Tree version of him. Fucking idiot.

 

The more time passes the more you realize just how much of a bum Robinson really was. That may be irrelevant to the topic at hand, but I see an opportunity to pile on QC I take it. Fuck him.

[BudsOilers]

Well in fairness Retard @Number9 was balls deep gagging on QC and then Vrabel so none of it is their fault....

 

 

 

[NashvilleNinja]

 

Gross.

[OILERMAN]

The interview with Borgonzi from Long was really good when they talked about Ward. 

 

Ward's preseason numbers were overall pretty pedestrian. If you didn't see him play you wouldn't even begin to understand the elite NFL passing traits he demonstrated. 

 

I'm more convinced than ever Ward will be an elite franchise QB. 

 

He processes so fast and also has such a quick release. He's going to make the pass protection so much better just because of that. 

 

I also underestimated Ward's arm talent. Borgonzi talked about that being something that jumped out to him. He can get the ball to a location with velocity that makes it impossible for a DB to make up ground. Combine that with his ability to throw with anticipation and that's impossible to defend. 

 

The other thing Borgonzi talked about was Ward's "spatial awareness". Ward can read the defense and place the ball into windows, like the pass on the Jefferson drop. He also showed this in week 1 to Ridley throwing over the LB into a space. 

 

Ward needs to clean up some things and they need better weapons but I fully expect Ward to be among the top QBs in a short time frame. Mahomes, Allen and Ward.....