How much better would this team be with Tannehill as our starting QB?

[Thrill]

6 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

ABT started a year earlier and it was a littany of guys in the draft and FA.....and no they never had a legit shot at Stroud unless they were going to trade up to 1, which was never a reality.  

 

And no Levis did not play better than Tannehill last year.  

 

ABT absolutely was a thing and what you guys are getting now is well deserved.  

 

 

A) You’re a fucking moron. 
B) You’re misrepresenting so many details but I’ll just harp on the fact that Tannehill was completely cooked last year. Couldn’t move around in the pocket and just got ready to take a sack every play. Levis kept us in more games and had way better counting stats than Tannehill. Sure id rather have RT now, but that doesn’t mean he was better last season.
C) You’re misrepresenting a single Tgo thread where he listed out all the potential guys as some long list of guys the board would prefer over RT. 
 

The other part you conveniently ignore was that a lot of us wanted to trade Tannehill for draft capital to add ammunition to a potential trade package. But keep talking when you’ve been categorically embarrassed on Henry and Tannehill in the span of 12 months. 

Edited October 24, 2024 by Thrill

[BudsOilers]

Wrong on all accounts.

 

I'm not misrepresenting anything about the tard army and ABT. 

 

Nor the fact Tannehill did in fact play at a higher level last year than Levis did....stats be damned.  Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply admitting they have no idea about evaluating QB play.  And that's not to say Tannehill played well but it was mainly on the pass protection aside from an absolutely horrid game 1 vs NO.

 

As for Henry, I've always recognized him for what he is.  He's probably the best 2nd level RB of this generation and maybe all time but in order to get that you have to have a dominant run blocking OL.  Almost every one of his big runs are on plays where he's not touched and blocks created massive holes.  My issue was always more with the prior coaches giving him way too many carries hoping for that and in the process exploiting the biggest problem they had on offense for years - pass blocking.

 

[FireInTheHole]

3 hours ago, Thrill said:

Also it was all but confirmed that Ran did, in fact, offer the farm to trade up for Stroud. 

Link?

[CaliTitan3518]

We would win maybe 1 or 2 more games so far. He wouldn't have the bonehead turnovers that Levis has had. That would have kept us in some games and given us a better shot at winning. 

[Jamalisms]

Did you watch him play last year?

[Callidus]

31 minutes ago, Jamalisms said:

Did you watch him play last year?

Have you watched the offense this year? Getting kicked in the balls is better than being shot no matter how you want to spin it. 

[OILERMAN]

The way the ABTers cheered when the two scrubs were drafted, Willis and Levis.....lol

 

 

[Number9]

5 hours ago, scine09 said:

That's not fair.  He had some good games in 2020 and some good moments in 2021.  Even in 2022 he had a couple of good moments and last year he was good against the Chargers in the second half.  I think he was always overrated on this board by certain people but he had a solid career as a Titan.

Tannehill made his money in 21.  Seattle had figured out how to stop Henry in the first half.  Tannehill lit them up and got robbed of a TD.  Henry broke loose in the second half and did some amazing things.  The two of them worked together.  Teams couldn't stop Henry, unless they over committed.  When Henry went down, Tannehill stood in leading the team to the best record in the AFC.

 

We needed Henry to win a SB.  People were proud to say, look, look they are getting the same rushing yards as that bum Henry.  I bet if you look at the scoring and production numbers it will say.  Teams didn't have to put so much effort into stopping Henry.  We just weren't the same team without him.

[Jamalisms]

2 hours ago, Callidus said:

Have you watched the offense this year? Getting kicked in the balls is better than being shot no matter how you want to spin it. 

 

How bad Will Levis is doesn't change anything about how bad Ryan Tannehill is, though it's worth noting he outplayed Ryan Tannehill last year.

[rns90]

1 hour ago, OILERMAN said:

The way the ABTers cheered when the two scrubs were drafted, Willis and Levis.....lol

 

 

Oh yeah , remember when some of those idiots were arguing that a late 3rd pick was a significant investment and that Willis was the qb of the future?

[Number9]

11 minutes ago, rns90 said:

Oh yeah , remember when some of those idiots were arguing that a late 3rd pick was a significant investment and that Willis was the qb of the future?

Looks like it's time to shut this thread down.  It has veered way off target.

Next we'll be discussing who wanted NOD to start.

Some of the posters weren't even born then.

Edited October 25, 2024 by Number9

[scine09]

3 hours ago, Number9 said:

Tannehill made his money in 21.  Seattle had figured out how to stop Henry in the first half.  Tannehill lit them up and got robbed of a TD.  Henry broke loose in the second half and did some amazing things.  The two of them worked together.  Teams couldn't stop Henry, unless they over committed.  When Henry went down, Tannehill stood in leading the team to the best record in the AFC.

 

We needed Henry to win a SB.  People were proud to say, look, look they are getting the same rushing yards as that bum Henry.  I bet if you look at the scoring and production numbers it will say.  Teams didn't have to put so much effort into stopping Henry.  We just weren't the same team without him.

Tannehill's worst year IMO was 2021 (not including last year).  I think he was better in 2022 than in 2021.  

Edited October 25, 2024 by scine09

[MTownTitan1]

1-5 talking about Ryan Tannehill. It’s tough being a fan of this team 

[Number9]

2 hours ago, scine09 said:

Tannehill's worst year IMO was 2021 (not including last year).  I think he was better in 2022 than in 2021.  

I look at what he did with what he had to work with.  The Titans ran a PA offense and we had the #1 dude in the NFL to run it with go down.  Tannehill had to take more responsibility, or rather his job got much more difficult.  Teams were able to pay more attention to stopping him.  

 

He took a beating.  His numbers suffered, but he stood in and won six out of nine games.  These were must wins to get home field.  The team was riddled with injuries.  He couldn't count on who was going to be on the field.  Julio wouldn't even travel with the team unless they agreed to bring his whirlpool.

 

It was a tough year of all of them.  Half the time he was missing AJ or Julio.  It was a great team effort.  Great coaching effort.  Sometimes I forget just how good that team was fully healthy.  They had a top offense and a D bad enough to get nine sacks in a playoff game.  

Edited October 25, 2024 by Number9

[OILERMAN]

6 hours ago, rns90 said:

Oh yeah , remember when some of those idiots were arguing that a late 3rd pick was a significant investment and that Willis was the qb of the future?

 

"A+ pick"