Temperature Check on the 2024 Titans

[No1TitansFan]

2 hours ago, Face said:

The one item I can’t wrap my head around though is the RT talk. I have no idea why they’ve basically penciled Radunz in as a guard when he actually played a solid RT last year & now he’s a full year recovered from the 

ACL. It blows my mind that it looks like NPF is starting there. Latham will most likely struggle early & if NPF plays like last year the OL could be a disaster again. I still can’t believe his line against Pitt last year……10 snaps,7 hurries, 2 sacks, injured. Has to be the worst game ever played. He’s suspended for gambling,, he’s not practicing,, I don’t get it. Radunz should be the unchallenged starter.

Rad got a ton of penalties and most of them were when he was at RT and a lot of them were false starts. He obviously had a lot of trouble when facing faster guys on the outside as opposed to when he's working on the inside.

[scine09]

10 hours ago, Face said:

Maybe not stats wise but outside of that pick he was nearly perfect. It was as accurate a game as I e ever seen. In fact Next Gen Stats graded it the most accurate since they started.

 

Another thing about RT, one of his big issues in Miami was he threw a bad deep ball. He threw  some incredible long balls here. Way down the field. The one to Burks week 2 last year was  just uncorked.

Tannehill’s problem was he could never seemingly put together a complete game.  It’s why I’m having trouble coming up with his best game and maybe agreeing that it might be the GB game, when he threw a horrible pick at a bad time.  If you take the 2021 season, for example, there were three games that highlight this exact problem.  Seattle, Buffalo and San Francisco.  He was just not good in the first half of any of those games, some worse than others.  He was terrific in the second halves of all those games.   But it seemed to be good half, bad half with him too many times.  In 2022 he’d come out on fire and then struggle in the second half.  It happened too many times.  He just wasn’t consistent enough, which is why you could never call the guy, even on his best day, a top level quarterback.

[IowaOiler]

37 minutes ago, scine09 said:

Tannehill’s problem was he could never seemingly put together a complete game.  It’s why I’m having trouble coming up with his best game and maybe agreeing that it might be the GB game, when he threw a horrible pick at a bad time.  If you take the 2021 season, for example, there were three games that highlight this exact problem.  Seattle, Buffalo and San Francisco.  He was just not good in the first half of any of those games, some worse than others.  He was terrific in the second halves of all those games.   But it seemed to be good half, bad half with him too many times.  In 2022 he’d come out on fire and then struggle in the second half.  It happened too many times.  He just wasn’t consistent enough, which is why you could never call the guy, even on his best day, a top level quarterback.

 

You not being able to call him a top level QB just makes me feel more confident that he was.  

[pat]

1 hour ago, scine09 said:

Tannehill’s problem was he could never seemingly put together a complete game.  It’s why I’m having trouble coming up with his best game and maybe agreeing that it might be the GB game, when he threw a horrible pick at a bad time.  If you take the 2021 season, for example, there were three games that highlight this exact problem.  Seattle, Buffalo and San Francisco.  He was just not good in the first half of any of those games, some worse than others.  He was terrific in the second halves of all those games.   But it seemed to be good half, bad half with him too many times.  In 2022 he’d come out on fire and then struggle in the second half.  It happened too many times.  He just wasn’t consistent enough, which is why you could never call the guy, even on his best day, a top level quarterback.

His whole time with the Titans there was this same problem.  For some reason Titans wouldn't keep passing and instead relied on a run game and defense which would only occasionally close out games.

Edited June 9, 2024 by pat

[Supernope]

11 minutes ago, pat said:

For some reason

 

[scine09]

39 minutes ago, pat said:

His whole time with the Titans there was this same problem.  For some reason Titans wouldn't keep passing and instead relied on a run game and defense which would only occasionally close out games.

I’m not talking about his statistics.  I’m talking about the quality of play from one half to the other.  

[OILERMAN]

2 hours ago, scine09 said:

I’m not talking about his statistics.  I’m talking about the quality of play from one half to the other.  

 

What did you think of VY and Mariota?

[scine09]

2 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

 

What did you think of VY and Mariota?

I know what you’re trying to do…..but obviously not even close to Tannehill’s level.

[titanruss]

Tannehill was absolutely a fringe top QB for about 20 games.

 

But most of the rest of his career he was a bridge-level replaceable starter. The last two years he was mostly complete dog shit with bridge-leve starter peaks.

[Callidus]

7 hours ago, titanruss said:

Tannehill was absolutely a fringe top QB for about 20 games.

 

But most of the rest of his career he was a bridge-level replaceable starter. The last two years he was mostly complete dog shit with bridge-leve starter peaks.

That's a pretty fair and succinct break down. 

[Mythos27]

On 6/8/2024 at 10:44 PM, Face said:

The one item I can’t wrap my head around though is the RT talk. I have no idea why they’ve basically penciled Radunz in as a guard when he actually played a solid RT last year & now he’s a full year recovered from the 

ACL. It blows my mind that it looks like NPF is starting there. Latham will most likely struggle early & if NPF plays like last year the OL could be a disaster again. I still can’t believe his line against Pitt last year……10 snaps,7 hurries, 2 sacks, injured. Has to be the worst game ever played. He’s suspended for gambling,, he’s not practicing,, I don’t get it. Radunz should be the unchallenged starter.

Not that I'm questioning them but I would love to know why they see him as a guard only player. He has near-prototypical size 6'5"/317, good length 34" arms, tested great with a 9.3 RAS including a 5.11 40 and elite 3-cone. His knock has been play strength but one would think this is an even bigger issue on the inside. He's looked at least capable the few times he's been out there too. I'd love to understand their rationale because I might learn something. This is the second staff that sees him this way so I'm interested to know why. 

[titanruss]

5 hours ago, Mythos27 said:

Not that I'm questioning them but I would love to know why they see him as a guard only player. He has near-prototypical size 6'5"/317, good length 34" arms, tested great with a 9.3 RAS including a 5.11 40 and elite 3-cone. His knock has been play strength but one would think this is an even bigger issue on the inside. He's looked at least capable the few times he's been out there too. I'd love to understand their rationale because I might learn something. This is the second staff that sees him this way so I'm interested to know why. 

maybe some sort of mentality thing. 
 

NFL.com scouting report says he lacks athleticism.. so maybe measurements aren't translating. Practice habits were questioned. Listed as better run blocker than pass blocker. 

[Callidus]

4 hours ago, titanruss said:

maybe some sort of mentality thing. 
 

NFL.com scouting report says he lacks athleticism.. so maybe measurements aren't translating. Practice habits were questioned. Listed as better run blocker than pass blocker. 

Didn't the nfl report for Latham say may be better off at guard as well?

 

 

And no, I'm not anywhere near the pot or spoon. 

[abenjami]

Hopefully they're getting the temperature check using a rectal thermometer.

[titanruss]

6 hours ago, Callidus said:

Didn't the nfl report for Latham say may be better off at guard as well?

 

yep.

 

kettle