IsntLifeFunny Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 38 minutes ago, Callidus said: The watch was a bad example. But anything that can be triangulated should be quite advanced enough already. As for the knee being down and what not. I'm not sure it would be that hard to compare the time stamp on the film with what the ball transmitted to know where to say it's down. I'm sure you think that's easy to triangulate to a bunch of refs on the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 Just now, IsntLifeFunny said: I'm sure you think that's easy to triangulate to a bunch of refs on the field. The refs won't be the ones doing the tech shit and even if they were it should be automated. We don't need ww2 pathfinders to figure out where the fucking ball landed lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, Callidus said: The refs won't be the ones doing the tech shit and even if they were it should be automated. We don't need ww2 pathfinders to figure out where the fucking ball landed lol I'm sure you think that's easy to implement. It isn't. What they're doing now is literally just using it for measurements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 5 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I'm sure you think that's easy to implement. It isn't. What they're doing now is literally just using it for measurements. How do you think they measure the location of an eltronic device? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 7 minutes ago, Callidus said: How do you think they measure the location of an eltronic device? Explain it to me and how it can be relayed down to down to the officiating crew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 35 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Explain it to me and how it can be relayed down to down to the officiating crew. You measure you distance to the desired target from 3 locations and by using geometry you can know it's exact location as long as it's between them. As for telling them where to mark it. Radio them the yard marker and then treat it like a punt. Have then walk from he center line or hash marks till they are in the right spot and tell them to stop. If they don't care to do it that way they can just have the refs mark it down then adjust it forward or back using the data for first downs or ever down. This isn't that difficult Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, Callidus said: You measure you distance to the desired target from 3 locations and by using geometry you can know it's exact location as long as it's between them. As for telling them where to mark it. Radio them the yard marker and then treat it like a punt. Have then walk from he center line or hash marks till they are in the right spot and tell them to stop. If they don't care to do it that way they can just have the refs mark it down then adjust it forward or back using the data for first downs or ever down. This isn't that difficult As I've said I'm sure you think that is a simple process, which you're still negating the ball moving say as a player extends but his knee is down, and it not slowing up the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF_Titan Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 On the list of all the problems with how the NFL game is officiated...getting the first down measurement more accurate is closer to the bottom of the list than the top. IsntLifeFunny, Supernope, and Justafan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 13 minutes ago, TF_Titan said: On the list of all the problems with how the NFL game is officiated...getting the first down measurement more accurate is closer to the bottom of the list than the top. Let's go ahead and add in triangulating positions on a down to down basis. Sounds great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 (edited) 18 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Let's go ahead and add in triangulating positions on a down to down basis. Sounds great. It's not some great feat of engineering magic man. It's a glorified GPS receiver. Edit: Not that GPS isn't very impressive just it's 1970s tech. Edited May 22, 2024 by Callidus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 On 5/20/2024 at 7:31 AM, LongTimeFan said: Yeah, I have a couple of Brazilian friends and they tell me that nobody gives a shit about the NFL. They barely support anything beside the Brazilian national soccer team and their local cub. I can't imaginethtat anyone in Australia giving two fucks. Brazil and Australia are like two different worlds... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 (edited) 10 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Now that makes a lot of sense. On a down to down basis I think it would unnecessarily slow up the game. It will be funny if they stick to eyeballing it 99% of the time (which will be inaccurate by feet most of the time lol) and switch to using down to the 1/4 inch accurate tech sometimes (important plays). It's like rounding all your calculations to the nearest 10 and then reporting your final answer to two decimal points lol Edited May 22, 2024 by Titans279 IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 1 hour ago, Callidus said: It's not some great feat of engineering magic man. It's a glorified GPS receiver. Edit: Not that GPS isn't very impressive just it's 1970s tech. Today is the day I learned @IsntLifeFunny for a younger dude knows jack shit about technology. a little scary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF_Titan Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 2 hours ago, Callidus said: You measure you distance to the desired target from 3 locations and by using geometry you can know it's exact location as long as it's between them. As for telling them where to mark it. Radio them the yard marker and then treat it like a punt. Have then walk from he center line or hash marks till they are in the right spot and tell them to stop. If they don't care to do it that way they can just have the refs mark it down then adjust it forward or back using the data for first downs or ever down. This isn't that difficult For the record...putting a transmitter in the ball is not a trivial thing. Placing one on the end (or on both ends) isn't sufficient. It would have to accurately locate the point on the surface of the ball that is closest to the goal line...which could literally be any point on the ball's surface. I'm not saying it's not a solvable problem, but it's definitely not trivial. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted May 22, 2024 Report Share Posted May 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, TF_Titan said: For the record...putting a transmitter in the ball is not a trivial thing. Placing one on the end (or on both ends) isn't sufficient. It would have to accurately locate the point on the surface of the ball that is closest to the goal line...which could literally be any point on the ball's surface. I'm not saying it's not a solvable problem, but it's definitely not trivial. True, but 6 should be the logical max I would think. 4 around the center and one on either end. That would give you a good skeleton like those ping pong ball suits. And knowing the average size of the ball you can input all of that intonthe computer and it should do the rest of the work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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