Thrill Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 8 minutes ago, Jonboy said: Yeah…I’m trying not to get annoyed yet. The timing feels off. Was a potential staff not discussed during his interviews? I haven’t felt any sort of urgency even though he and Ran both skipped the Senior Bowl. Hopefully they’ve talked to a lot more names than we know about from the media. I’m sure they have. Do they even have to interview for non coordinator positions? Some of these guys might be simple phone calls and then the answer is “yes I want to work with you but let me check with my agent on how much money I need to make it happen.” Or “no I don’t unless you promote me to this position.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Jonboy said: Yeah…I’m trying not to get annoyed yet. The timing feels off. Was a potential staff not discussed during his interviews? I haven’t felt any sort of urgency even though he and Ran both skipped the Senior Bowl. Hopefully they’ve talked to a lot more names than we know about from the media. i don't get a sense the timing is off at all. They hired BC pretty quickly. The season isn't even over yet. And they're working on the staff. Personally I think the Senior Bowl is overrated. Scouts are there anyway. Edited January 31, 2024 by reo SuperFreak90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 12 minutes ago, reo said: i don't get a sense the timing is off at all. They hired BC pretty quickly. The season isn't even over yet. And they're working on the staff. Personally I think the Senior Bowl is overrated. Scouts are there anyway. A lot of deals and relationships get made there and in the bars/restaurants days before the draft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 Just now, SleepingTitan said: A lot of deals and relationships get made there and in the bars/restaurants days before the draft. yeah but that's not really scouting related per se. that's a "nice to have" imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 (edited) I really did think with the news getting out last night of all the coaches we’re letting go, we would have heard something today in regards to a hire. One week without anything substantive in regards to his staff seems rather slow. Or maybe I’m just impatient. Edited January 31, 2024 by Mercalius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcap88 Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, IowaOiler said: So we are crediting Bowen for the seasons he had Schwartz baby-sitting, and writing off the years he wasn't baby-sat as a lack of talent? Bowen with a depleted defense 21.6 ppg schwartz loaded defense in Cleveland 21.3 ……. Edited January 31, 2024 by Bcap88 SleepingTitan, titanskick8851, and Callidus 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcap88 Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 2 hours ago, Justafan said: That sounds great until you realize how they were going ultra-conservative and running at one of the highest rates in the league, which artificially kept scoring low and made the defense look much better than it was. Oh you mean how they went ultra conservative in 2019 with pees and ran the ball 15 times and 14 times in the first two playoff wins which artificially kept the scoring low Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaOiler Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 20 minutes ago, Bcap88 said: Bowen with a depleted defense 21.6 ppg schwartz loaded defense in Cleveland 21.3 ……. Lol...it's takes a special kind of person to compare Bowen to Schwartz. Kcroy420 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 Trying to be patient here but dude needs to start moving on assembling a staff. Titans279 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcap88 Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 10 minutes ago, IowaOiler said: Lol...it's takes a special kind of person to compare Bowen to Schwartz. You’re the one saying Schwartz baby sat him, did you not ? wash the pesticide off your corn cobs and come back with a better formulated argument SleepingTitan, and Callidus 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreakofLegend Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 10 minutes ago, IowaOiler said: Lol...it's takes a special kind of person to compare Bowen to Schwartz. I honestly cant believe the numbers are that similar. They are though. I mean if Bowen can get his WHOLE defense to match his redzone defense i would not complain. We shall see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ToneTerror Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 Again, we’ve never seem Bowen run a D without Vrabel sticking has fingers in it… SuperFreak90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaOiler Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 8 minutes ago, Bcap88 said: You’re the one saying Schwartz baby sat him, did you not ? wash the pesticide off your corn cobs and come back with a better formulated argument Everyone knows Schwartz was brought in as his baby-sitter...except you apparently. If you aren't familiar with Bowen's history here, then how about you sit this one out, kiddo. 7 minutes ago, Divine said: I honestly cant believe the numbers are that similar. They are though. I mean if Bowen can get his WHOLE defense to match his redzone defense i would not complain. We shall see. The Browns had a legit division (3 playoff teams + Cincy). To try using one stat from one year to claim two coordinator are similar is ludicrous. Here is how they compare fully: We allowed offenses to run 82 more plays, 80 more first downs, had half as many turnovers, and the expected points contributed by defense...-69 vs. +90. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex in a Can Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 4 hours ago, Starkiller said: Bowen isn’t a bad DC, so if BC can’t hire someone better then it’s a reasonable option to just keep him. But if they can get an up and comer like Dennard Wilson, absolutely kick him to the curb for a new guy. With MacDonald going to the Seahawks, bet Wilson is promoted to DC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 7 minutes ago, Tex in a Can said: With MacDonald going to the Seahawks, bet Wilson is promoted to DC Entirely possible. Probably even likely. But there are reasons why an assistant might want to take a promotion elsewhere rather than simply take the same promotion from his current team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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