Justafan Posted January 17, 2024 Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 21 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Then I ask again, if the majority of Republicans believe in things that are conclusively untrue, what do you call them? Republicans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted January 17, 2024 Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 14 minutes ago, WG53 said: Lol what? You can't reason with those people. Why say that? Because we've tried. They literally believe lies to be the truth. You cannot convince them otherwise even with direct proof. They deny everything. They come up with crazy ideas why you can't believe your own eyes. Why you can't trust anyone but Trump and his sycophants. Come on now. Be better than that. You are judging millions of people based on your personal interactions? You be better than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 17, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 11 minutes ago, Justafan said: Republicans. Fine, then you agree that being Republican is defined by believing in things that are flat out untrue. I’m glad that you can agree to that… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted January 17, 2024 Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 9 minutes ago, Justafan said: You are judging millions of people based on your personal interactions? You be better than that. The same people that go out of their way at every stop to yell and act like our current president is illegitimate in addition to believing all kinds of other crazy conspiracy theories. And you can't convince them at all that the things they believe are demonstrably false. You're damn right anyone with a brain will judge them accordingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Justafan Posted January 17, 2024 Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Starkiller said: Fine, then you agree that being Republican is defined by believing in things that are flat out untrue. I’m glad that you can agree to that… I do. I also think being Democrat is defined by believing in things that make no sense or are flat out untrue. Starkiller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted January 17, 2024 Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 1 hour ago, WG53 said: The same people that go out of their way at every stop to yell and act like our current president is illegitimate in addition to believing all kinds of other crazy conspiracy theories. And you can't convince them at all that the things they believe are demonstrably false. You're damn right anyone with a brain will judge them accordingly. Maybe, address the individuals the way they deserved to be treated instead of seeing a random survey with a random percentage and lumping 50% of the country into the crazy bucket. Just my pov. Others, obviously disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 17, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Justafan said: I do. I also think being Democrat is defined by believing in things that make no sense or are flat out untrue. What things that are conclusively untrue do a majority of Democrats believe in then… Edited January 17, 2024 by Starkiller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted January 17, 2024 Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 28 minutes ago, Justafan said: Maybe, address the individuals the way they deserved to be treated instead of seeing a random survey with a random percentage and lumping 50% of the country into the crazy bucket. Just my pov. Others, obviously disagree. I've tried that. And it always ends up with me having the same exact conversation over and over again? No, Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted January 17, 2024 Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 3 hours ago, WG53 said: You can't reason with those people. Why say that? Because we've tried. They literally believe lies to be the truth. You cannot convince them otherwise even with direct proof. They deny everything. They come up with crazy ideas why you can't believe your own eyes. Why you can't trust anyone but Trump and his sycophants. They even boo trump when he says something they don't like. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted January 17, 2024 Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 3 hours ago, Justafan said: You mean like 31 genders? They're crazy too. Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted January 17, 2024 Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 2 hours ago, Starkiller said: What things that are conclusively untrue do a majority of Democrats believe in then… When people are rebuked in Congress for claiming that a woman is someone with the capacity for pregnancy, or dare to question the wisdom of climate policy, have any sort of investigation into the president's son who clearly was involved in illegal activity, or propose that perhaps the government shouldn't spend more than the revenue it can reasonably generate, it is hypocritical to the 10th degree to pretend like the Democrats are all rational thinkers while conservatives are bat shit crazy. There is plenty of bat-shit nonsense to go around. Little Earl 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 17, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 39 minutes ago, Justafan said: When people are rebuked in Congress for claiming that a woman is someone with the capacity for pregnancy, or dare to question the wisdom of climate policy, have any sort of investigation into the president's son who clearly was involved in illegal activity, or propose that perhaps the government shouldn't spend more than the revenue it can reasonably generate, it is hypocritical to the 10th degree to pretend like the Democrats are all rational thinkers while conservatives are bat shit crazy. There is plenty of bat-shit nonsense to go around. You just love to play the fake “both sides” game… WG53 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2024 Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Justafan said: When people are rebuked in Congress for claiming that a woman is someone with the capacity for pregnancy, or dare to question the wisdom of climate policy, have any sort of investigation into the president's son who clearly was involved in illegal activity, or propose that perhaps the government shouldn't spend more than the revenue it can reasonably generate, it is hypocritical to the 10th degree to pretend like the Democrats are all rational thinkers while conservatives are bat shit crazy. There is plenty of bat-shit nonsense to go around. Generalizing in this way does not help you. I think you are a reasonable person with a lot of good things to say when discussing a topic--but you seem like a dog with a bone when it comes to the "both sides" argument you seemed really focused on making. All of the things you cite here are pretty easy to dismiss as a direct comparison to Trump and the wide scale election denialism happening around this country. I am just not sure what you are trying to achieve--and if you really view these things as similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted January 17, 2024 Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 Interesting. Democrats spent 4 years denying the Trump presidency. And wanted an Iranian deal, decriminalized drugs, open borders, amnesty cities, defunding the police, instituted DEI everywhere, ban stoves, push for ev, puberty blocking drugs, force covid vaccines (science), deny new charter schools, and insist that requiring an ID to vote is racist. Democrats have destroyed SF and are in the process of destroying LA, Seattle, Portland, Chicago with their policies. Are all in on Ukraine but insist Israel protecting themselves is a genocide. You are perfectly ok with the party and spy agencies colluding with media of all kind to ban any contrarian voice or story detrimental to Democrats while claiming the other side is a threat to democracy.And all the while insisting that none of this is really pertinent to any discussion. Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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