Starkiller Posted August 20, 2024 Report Share Posted August 20, 2024 1 hour ago, TitanTheGiant said: The richest person on the planet needed a loan? He didn’t need a loan, it was simply more beneficial move than selling Tesla stock to raise the money directly luvyablue256 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jamalisms Posted August 22, 2024 Report Share Posted August 22, 2024 On 8/20/2024 at 3:04 PM, reo said: Why? To turn it into a right wing propaganda machine. He's in line w/ Putin, Xi and Trump but he's there b/c he thinks workers rights and democratic bureaucracy is holding the human race back. So he wanted to help Trump turn the US into an oligarchy so he could abuse workers and make ppl into worker bees for his vision of progress. Agreed. In addition to hoarding money and a giant ego he also views humanity as a video game and the masses are all NPCs to be maneuvered towards advancement by he and others, the real players. Impact on the masses is irrelevant. 'Nator, and reo 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted August 26, 2024 Report Share Posted August 26, 2024 A federal judge ordered Tuesday that a list of investors who helped fund Musk’s $44 billion takeover of X, formerly Twitter, in October 2022 be unsealed. Platform X (formerly Twitter) was forced by an American court to disclose its investors as part of a lawsuit filed by former employees. The list of investors who enabled Elon Musk to take over the platform includes a fund associated with Putin's oligarchs. Buried among the lengthy list of nearly 100 investors are several particularly troubling figures. ...one particular fund drew significant attention: it involves the sons of Russian oligarchs closely associated with Vladimir Putin. Specifically, this is about the 8VC Opportunities Fund II. On the fund's website, Denis Aven and Jack Moszkowicz are listed in the staff section. They are the sons of oligarchs Petr Aven and Vadim Moszkowicz. Petr Aven, a Russian billionaire and founder of Alfa Group, is described as "one of Putin's main portfolios." He is subject to sanctions imposed on Russia due to the war in Ukraine. Vadim Moszkowicz made his fortune in the agricultural industry and is part of Putin's inner circle, which is why he has also been subjected to Western sanctions. reo, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted August 26, 2024 Report Share Posted August 26, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, Starkiller said: A federal judge ordered Tuesday that a list of investors who helped fund Musk’s $44 billion takeover of X, formerly Twitter, in October 2022 be unsealed. Platform X (formerly Twitter) was forced by an American court to disclose its investors as part of a lawsuit filed by former employees. The list of investors who enabled Elon Musk to take over the platform includes a fund associated with Putin's oligarchs. Buried among the lengthy list of nearly 100 investors are several particularly troubling figures. ...one particular fund drew significant attention: it involves the sons of Russian oligarchs closely associated with Vladimir Putin. Specifically, this is about the 8VC Opportunities Fund II. On the fund's website, Denis Aven and Jack Moszkowicz are listed in the staff section. They are the sons of oligarchs Petr Aven and Vadim Moszkowicz. Petr Aven, a Russian billionaire and founder of Alfa Group, is described as "one of Putin's main portfolios." He is subject to sanctions imposed on Russia due to the war in Ukraine. Vadim Moszkowicz made his fortune in the agricultural industry and is part of Putin's inner circle, which is why he has also been subjected to Western sanctions. I wish that was surprising.... do you have an article link btw? Edited August 26, 2024 by reo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted August 26, 2024 Report Share Posted August 26, 2024 2 hours ago, reo said: I wish that was surprising.... do you have an article link btw? https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/court-orders-x-to-reveal-investors-links-to-putin-s-allies-found/ar-AA1poZUQ reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted August 26, 2024 Report Share Posted August 26, 2024 12 hours ago, Starkiller said: A federal judge ordered Tuesday that a list of investors who helped fund Musk’s $44 billion takeover of X, formerly Twitter, in October 2022 be unsealed. Platform X (formerly Twitter) was forced by an American court to disclose its investors as part of a lawsuit filed by former employees. The list of investors who enabled Elon Musk to take over the platform includes a fund associated with Putin's oligarchs. Buried among the lengthy list of nearly 100 investors are several particularly troubling figures. ...one particular fund drew significant attention: it involves the sons of Russian oligarchs closely associated with Vladimir Putin. Specifically, this is about the 8VC Opportunities Fund II. On the fund's website, Denis Aven and Jack Moszkowicz are listed in the staff section. They are the sons of oligarchs Petr Aven and Vadim Moszkowicz. Petr Aven, a Russian billionaire and founder of Alfa Group, is described as "one of Putin's main portfolios." He is subject to sanctions imposed on Russia due to the war in Ukraine. Vadim Moszkowicz made his fortune in the agricultural industry and is part of Putin's inner circle, which is why he has also been subjected to Western sanctions. Color me surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted August 27, 2024 Report Share Posted August 27, 2024 All roads lead back to Russia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaTitan Posted August 27, 2024 Report Share Posted August 27, 2024 Wouldn’t be surprised if Elon is compromised. And lol at him all of a sudden being a champion for freedom and democracy. he’s only motivated by self interest and bought twitter to have influence over public opinion. https://www.wsj.com/tech/elon-musk-politics-trump-social-media-267d34c8?st=d84tdvla9d4v59a&reflink=article_copyURL_share Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted August 27, 2024 Report Share Posted August 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, VaTitan said: Wouldn’t be surprised if Elon is compromised. And lol at him all of a sudden being a champion for freedom and democracy. he’s only motivated by self interest and bought twitter to have influence over public opinion. https://www.wsj.com/tech/elon-musk-politics-trump-social-media-267d34c8?st=d84tdvla9d4v59a&reflink=article_copyURL_share I’d be more surprised if he wasn’t reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaTitan Posted August 27, 2024 Report Share Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) 26 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: I’d be more surprised if he wasn’t Yeah, he has a long history with Russia, going back to when he started SpaceX and needed them to sell him used rockets. Frontline did a pretty good episode on him and his shift since buying Twitter. it’s super long but very interesting. This child of apartheid SA doesn’t have me fooled, and while he’s a great businessman, he’s not some all knowing genius. He’s the typical self-interested billionaire who wants to advance his own self-interest and has nothing in common with the average American. The US govt needs to accelerate oversight of social media asap Edited August 27, 2024 by VaTitan OILERMAN, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted August 27, 2024 Report Share Posted August 27, 2024 If "great businessman" is defined as getting away with as much employee abuse as possible and turning that into productivity then, sure. He's a great businessman. So are those who employ child labor. IsntLifeFunny, reo, and Starkiller 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted August 27, 2024 Report Share Posted August 27, 2024 On 8/20/2024 at 3:13 PM, TitanTheGiant said: The richest person on the planet needed a loan? Rich people deal almost exclusively w/ debt. It's just easier for them to get loans. Why would they spend their own money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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luvyablue256 Posted August 28, 2024 Report Share Posted August 28, 2024 On 5/11/2022 at 11:22 AM, Titans279 said: The conspiracy I heard you talk about was that this was all a rightwing and Russian funded op to get Trump back on Twitter. Just because Trump would no longer banned doesn't mean that the conspiracy is true. How would you like your crow, sir? IsntLifeFunny, Jamalisms, OILERMAN, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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