Iran

[reo]

9 minutes ago, Titandan said:

Just asking questions... I'm a noob

 

What it sounds like you're doing is justifying in your head war w/ Iran b/c they're scary.

 

When in reality.. this is why war is bad.

Edited Saturday at 09:16 PM by reo

[OILERMAN]

Imagine calling everyone stupid who opposes Trump but admitting you don't pay attention to what Trump "says", because what he says is always so fucking stupid. 

[Titandan]

1 minute ago, reo said:

 

No, it's not considered an ICBM. This range is about 2k km. ICBMs are more like 5k to 10k. 

 

 

Depends on the warhead and specifics on the missile design. 

I see.  I hope we will never see another nuclear weapon used ever again.  That probably spells the demise of civilization as we know it, right?  Direct war with another country with nukes is pretty much a game of chicken we're playing at that point.  Isn't it?  

[Titandan]

7 minutes ago, reo said:

What it sounds like you're doing is justifying in your head war w/ Iran b/c they're scary.

 

When in reality.. this is why war is bad.

I still don't know if this is justified.  We're in the thick of it so I guess it doesn't matter.  But I don't trust the IRGC.  They were developing nukes. There's no doubt about that in my mind.  I like the way this guy thinks.  
 

 

['Nator]

This is what happens when your commander in chief is a dimwit whose only employed strategy is vibes. 
 

Trump is getting absolutely cucked by Iran.

[reo]

1 minute ago, Titandan said:

They were developing nukes. There's no doubt about that in my mind.

 

They weren't when Obama's deal was in place. No clue what they were doing once Trump broke the agreement and the inspectors left.

[Titandan]

15 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Imagine calling everyone stupid who opposes Trump but admitting you don't pay attention to what Trump "says", because what he says is always so fucking stupid. 

O-man.  You need to study Trumpanese.  It's slightly more complicated than Chinese.  But once the fog has lifted, there will be a light bulb moment where you say, "Oh.... I get it all now!"  

[OILERMAN]

Imagine being so stupid you can say ridiculous shit like this and get away with it because everyone already knows how stupid you are

 

 

[Titandan]

3 minutes ago, reo said:

They weren't when Obama's deal was in place. No clue what they were doing once Trump broke the agreement and the inspectors left.

I think we are still hitting underground storage facilities for missiles (they are calling it cities because they are so massive). We are three weeks into this war and seems like there are new discoveries still being made.  

Although the Mossad and our intelligence is good.  I think we overestimate their reach/ability sometimes while underestimating our enemies.

From what I heard, getting the uranium enriched to 30% takes a long time.  Then it takes a little less time to get to 60% and from 60% to 90% it takes very little time.  With little to no science background, all I can do is trust the experts on this.  Maybe you know a bit about this as well. 

Whether or not the Iran Nuclear Deal worked and Iran diluted all of their uranium can be debated. Maybe they did it for show or maybe they did indeed dilute the entire supply.  But I don't trust the IRGC and I think it's entirely possible that they had another secret facility that they could have enriched uranium without our knowledge.  

Once Iran had nukes, what they would have done with it is also up for debate.  Would I have preferred to live in ignorance for the next decade while they were preparing to do terrorism on a global scale?  For the time being, probably yes... But for the future of that region and the world as a whole, it's probably good to get rid of them now than later.  

[Titandan]

4 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Imagine being so stupid you can say ridiculous shit like this and get away with it because everyone already knows how stupid you are

 

 

The first lesson in speaking Trumpanese is... 

#1. Trump speaks in generalities with specifics that favors himself.  You will learn one day, grasshoppa. 
 

 

[reo]

22 minutes ago, Titandan said:

I think we are still hitting underground storage facilities for missiles (they are calling it cities because they are so massive). We are three weeks into this war and seems like there are new discoveries still being made.  

Although the Mossad and our intelligence is good.  I think we overestimate their reach/ability sometimes while underestimating our enemies.

From what I heard, getting the uranium enriched to 30% takes a long time.  Then it takes a little less time to get to 60% and from 60% to 90% it takes very little time.  With little to no science background, all I can do is trust the experts on this.  Maybe you know a bit about this as well. 

Whether or not the Iran Nuclear Deal worked and Iran diluted all of their uranium can be debated. Maybe they did it for show or maybe they did indeed dilute the entire supply.  But I don't trust the IRGC and I think it's entirely possible that they had another secret facility that they could have enriched uranium without our knowledge.  

Once Iran had nukes, what they would have done with it is also up for debate.  Would I have preferred to live in ignorance for the next decade while they were preparing to do terrorism on a global scale?  For the time being, probably yes... But for the future of that region and the world as a whole, it's probably good to get rid of them now than later.  

 

We can't destroy all of their underground storage facilities w/ missiles and that's of lesser concern. It's not illegal for other countries to have missiles.

Yes, you should trust the experts who have detailed reports showing that Iran did not have nukes. And you should trust the inspectors. 

[Titandan]

I guess Iran was lying their missiles range before.  Like I said... I don't trust these terrorists.
 

 

[Titandan]

4 minutes ago, reo said:

 

We can't destroy all of their underground storage facilities w/ missiles and that's of lesser concern. It's not illegal for other countries to have missiles.

Yes, you should trust the experts who have detailed reports showing that Iran did not have nukes. And you should trust the inspectors. 

Very trusting of you... I trust the inspectors.  But I don't trust Iran and I refuse to underestimate their ability to hide stuff from us. 

[reo]

1 minute ago, Titandan said:

Very trusting of you... I trust the inspectors.  But I don't trust Iran and I refuse to underestimate their ability to hide stuff from us. 

 

You don't know anything about their ability to hide stuff. And you know anything about how the inspectors do their work. 

 

You're choosing what you want to believe and what experts you want to trust based on what you want to believe.

[Titandan]

49 minutes ago, 'Nator said:

This is what happens when your commander in chief is a dimwit whose only employed strategy is vibes. 
 

Trump is getting absolutely cucked by Iran.

That's actually not a bad plan... but do they have the leverage or will that just anger Trump to double down on the attacks? 

Check this beauty out.  Not sure how it works but I guess Bessent screwed over the IRGC.  I'm all for it.